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Closed for "monks praying"
Written by Andrew Jackson   
Tuesday, 21 August 2007

This scam again involves being told that something is closed when it is not, with a view to redirecting the hapless tourist to something more profitable for the scammer. 

This scam started (20 August 2007) before we even crossed the intersection to the Grand Place corner. Scammer No. 1 told use falsely where the main entrance was and then "helped" us across the road (it was the giant wooden door at the very corner of the enclosure - see the photo). The scammers No. 2 & 3 were wearing yellow tops and were wearing official-looking ID badges.

Once across the road these two told us that the Grand Palace was closed for two hours (it was after 1pm) because "the monks were praying". Trying to remember everything that we had read about not believing anybody who says something is "closed" we resisted their overtures even though superficially it seemed somewhat reasonable, but strange nonetheless.

 In any case we could see people streaming further up the road to what was obviously a main entrance and once we got there it was clear that nothing was closed at all (whether or not the monks were praying). We noted that the actual closure time was 3.30pm and so if we had listened to the scammers, we would have returned to find that the Palace was indeed closed.

So a Golden Rule of Bangkok scamming was again confirmed - Don't believe anyone who tells you that something is closed it's almost a certainty that it is not - you have to find out for yourself.

One other little tip not actually a scam, but occurring at the same site. "Don't buy an item from the first person who offers it to you". It almost certainly will be available further up the road, and the first price will 'always' be higher. You can always go back and buy if that is not the case. In this case it was hand-made parasols - initial price was 400Baht, further up the road a stack of them for 100Baht (and barter anyway at that price).

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written by Paco, Sat 15 Sep 2007 15:06:34 MDT
For your files; same thing happened to me 17 years ago already. So, not really new and most serious travel guides nowadays warn you about those scams.
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written by Dennis, Sat 20 Oct 2007 13:17:32 MDT
Hahaha,

I have experienced the situation u have mentioned above just 2weeks ago (8Oct'07). That day I just had a wonderful tours around the grand palace and planning to visit the sleeping buddha temple which located nearby the grand palace, while we looking the for the entrance of the sleeping buddha temple a man with his son (that's what he said), approached us and said the temple was closed because the monks is praying and they have special occasions. After I read this article, it's all a well organised scam. hahaha...i suppose to search more details about bkk before go there.
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written by kev, Wed 27 Feb 2008 12:41:11 MST
i was at the grand palace yesterday, and was waiting for my friends to guy tickets. a couple asked the ticket booth if it was closed, cause they where told it was. its a good thing a good thing they didnt believe them!
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written by Peter Gregory, Fri 22 Aug 2008 13:10:09 MDT
I live in Malaysia and have visited Bangkok about 12 times and even lived there for a year in 1980.I fell for the same scam and it ruined my elderly sister's holiday- she's is a very nervous traveler and it was her first time out of UK- she blamed me then wanted to leave Thailand immediately- we got a ticket to Penanag, Malaysia and had a much better holiday. I travel extensively and had seven Bangkok transits now, even if the transit is 12 hours, I refuse to leave Bangkok airport.

We were told by a REAL policeman and a uniformed guy at the Grand Palace gates that the palace was closed for prayers- it was VERY convincing and they ushered us to a tuk tuk where, for just 30 baht, we would be shown four temples which are "so beautiful but foreigners rarely see"; we were taken instead to a gems shop, where I refused to get out of the tuk tuk; the driver said it wouldn't start (!!), and ALL the empty passing taxis refused to stop for us. My sister insisted on going to the tourist police, and made a report. As we walked away, I turned back and saw the laughing policeman tear her report into pieces. I'll NEVER revisit Bangkok. I just read that tourist visitors are down 30% in Pattaya. I wonder why?
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written by Peter Gregory, Fri 22 Aug 2008 13:37:33 MDT
Oh- I forgot to mention on the above posting- we walked all the way back to the Grand Palace, as my sister wouldn't trust ANY taxi driver after that; it was too late to go in by that time, so we decided to take the boat taxi back. As we walked towards the river, a very insistent tuk tuk driver followed us, shouting "no boats- river too high!!".
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written by tm, Sun 24 Aug 2008 00:31:06 MDT
I just returned from BKK for 5th time in the past year, i took my Thai GF to the grand palace' first time for both of us.

I actualy saw the guy near the corner guard post approach two men walking along looking at their map and obviously confused as to where the entrance was' showing them the time on his watch and serving up a load of crap' as we strolled past. The guards at that post were watching.

Just futher down the road in 'Visible distance' loads of people were going into the main entrance, i'm not sure if they got scammed, i wanted to warn them but i was with my girl and did not want to cause any trouble in front of her.


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