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James Fashion Taylor Scam
Friday, 16 January 2009

My wife and i were taken to James Fashion Taylor

by a tuk-tuk driver last week who lied to us about the Emerald Buddha temple being closed. We didnt want to go in but told us if we didnt he would tell the police that we wanted to take the tuk-tuk ride for free. Before this he took us to an average temple with some touts trying to sell us jewelry.

Inside James, i was actually quite impressed and so was my wife we very thought that the tailors looked very professional inside. I bought 3 silk shirts all for $45 dollars ($15 dollars each). Ha clearly said $15 each. When i went to collect my shirts, i was charged $45 each! The receipt he had given me in Thai language was different from what we agreed on.

James Fashion is a scam.

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written by Rain, Sat 17 Jan 2009 13:33:22 CST


I was driven to James Fashion in Bangkok Thailand by my cab driver, without asking. I went in the check it out, not intending to buy anything. Finally I asked the cost of a taylor made silk skirt. The sales man said 2000 thai baht (about $50). So I considered buying one. I began looking at fabric and found 3 that I really liked. I could not decide which, and so the Salesman said, OK 3 skirts for 2000 baht. I said, 3 for 2000? He said yes. So I ordered 3 in the 3 fabrics.

When I got to my hotel, I looked at the bill and realized that he'd charged me for 3 at 2000 baht each! So, I called to cancel my order because I'd been mislead as to the cost. He said I could not cancel, and insisted I come in for a second fitting. I said no, I am cancelling, do not charge my card. Again he said I could not cancel, and he would send the taylor to my hotel to do a fitting. I said no, I don't want the skirts because I was lied to about the price. He said that I was not, that it was ridiculous to think that anyone would offer me 3 skirts for just 2000 baht! I didn't go for the fitting. I left without getting the skirts.

Next thing I know, I see a charge on my bank account from them. I called the bank to dispute it, but after research, they could not find that I took nothing from the store, so I had to pay. I'm still fighting.

Rain
Pt. Richmond, California
U.S.A.
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written by Ken Gibson, Sat 17 Jan 2009 13:47:23 CST
Don't do business in Thailand is the message.

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written by Khun Issan, Sat 17 Jan 2009 13:57:08 CST
nding a good tailor in Thailand won't be easy, but it will be possible.

Here are six tips -- based on experience of living in Bangkok -- to help you find a good tailor. Maybe.

Easiest to follow someone else who has had good experiences at a certain shop. But, be careful even with that: people recommend only what they know. If they know only one shop, that's the one they'll recommend to you.

What To Buy: .

If you don't have a recommendation here are my suggestions:

(1) Do not enter enter any shop that has touts out front. A tout out front is a sure sign of worse pressure inside.

(2) Do not follow recommendations from taxi driver or bellboy. They can't afford tailor made clothes, so they don't know quality or value. But they will get a commission, which you will pay in the price of your order.

(3) Select a tailor _inside_ a 5-star hotel. If a tailor shop is dodgey, it won't last very long in the hotel.

(4) Select a tailor shop where the staff is _not_ East Indian. That means, the staff is Chinese-Thai. There are only a few such shops in Bangkok, perhaps 1% or less of all tailor shops. (East Indians reading this may feel offended. Volunteers in the "politically correct thought police" may feel outraged and complain to the moderators. I do not apologize for this fact: you will have a lower chance of being cheated by Chinese-Thai tailors, than by East Indian tailors)

(5) Select a tailor shop outside tourist areas. If you don't know the city, that will be awkward, but possible. Easiest is at a big shopping mall in the suburbs. The best malls for that purpose are named, "The Mall" -- a chain of malls all around Thailand, with several locations in Bangkok. Remember, in the suburbs, _not_ in tourist areas. If you see more than a few other Caucasians, you are not yet in the suburbs.

(6) Select a shop that displays Thai government uniforms in the window. That indicates they have Thai local customers. It will be impossible to find this sort of display in any tourist areas. Must go to the suburbs.
2000B is way too much for a shirt, and how do you know it is silk, did you do the ring test. I would dispute gain with your credit card and tell them they took the money unauthorised. Yet again you need to do your research extremely well.... Thai/Chinese are the best people to deal with in Thailand. I would send an e mail to James Tailors and copy and paste this site, mention there name is on Bangkok scams, also other sites as being unscrupulous as well. With prices like this your better of going to LL Bean in Maine at least you get what you pay for
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written by Khun Issan, Sat 17 Jan 2009 13:59:48 CST
We had dealings with James Tailor at one time, and he has a few other branches mascarading under other names as well. Nasty bits of work dont deal with them!
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written by pighoglet, Sat 17 Jan 2009 19:19:43 CST
If these so called tailors shops are any good, why do they have to have people outside following you down the road to get a sale?

Rule one of getting business dont p*** off your customers before, during and after they buy!

People arent stupid, they may be intimidated at the time, but theyre not stupid and they dont keep quiet in telling their friends how crap these tailors places can be.

Feel sorry for the genuine tailors who are far outnumbered by the cheats and scammers.
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written by Max, Sun 18 Jan 2009 09:22:22 CST
On James' website they say they have been nominated by national geographic as top ten tailor in the world. Take a close look at the scan from the national geographic. Either the national geographic can not spell correctly (enormous lange & Bollt) and their grammar (see below in blue) is terrible or James are lying.

James' fake photocopy job:

http://www.james-fashion.com/quality.html

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written by Sammie, Sun 18 Jan 2009 14:38:30 CST
Max, its laughable, and I will write to National Geographic thanking them for the wonderful advice for this tailor!! I must remember to go there when I need new dish cloths hahahah.... James Tailors are absolute fakes
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written by Chas, Tue 20 Jan 2009 06:30:57 CST
you can't cheat an honest man.
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written by Rudy, Mon 23 Feb 2009 12:12:41 CST
If you get custom clothes made in Thailand, you are a fool.



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written by Rebecca, Sun 01 Mar 2009 13:38:47 CST
A taxi/tuk-tuk driver telling you that your destination is closed/burned down/no good is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Walk away and find another driver or make up a white lie "We went their yesterday, it was open" and see how they react (occasionally they are telling the truth!)

You were lied to by the driver and then threatened by him into entering a shop you didn't want to: did you honestly expect a happy ending? Of course he could have a friend in the police to help him in his scam, but it would have been easier to say "Fine, I'll speak to a police officer myself, tell him that you are threatening me" that would have made him scarper.

If you order clothes, insist on paying after inspecting the finished product and then pay in cash. An honest business who makes quality products would have no problem with this
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written by Bill, Sun 01 Mar 2009 13:41:52 CST
Hey Jimmy. Does the P in your name stand for thieving prick?
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written by Alessandro, Mon 02 Mar 2009 01:45:27 CST
Two years ago I bought two suites and a couple of shirts from Gulati. The cut was nice and the material on average. I did two fittings and overall result was good. This time I am going to provide fabrics directly from Italy
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written by Curt, Mon 02 Mar 2009 07:26:40 CST
Actually, with the thousands of garments James puts out, they are bound to get one right!
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written by William K, Mon 02 Mar 2009 09:10:05 CST
Provide the fabrics from Italy?
Make sure they don't swap it out for cheap synthetics.
Thailand is really good at one thing.
Providing poor girls for the nitelife industry.


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written by Shirley, Sat 11 Apr 2009 23:08:14 CDT
My partner and I were recently in Bangkok and both had suits, shirts, in my case, dresses and shirts made by James Tailors and we are very pleased indeed with the service and the quality of the garments. When they were delivered to our hotel, we needed some alterations done, but were leaving that day for Phuket. They did the alterations, posted them to their branch in Phuket and delivered them by car to our hotel from there. I am so pleased with everything, I have been looking at their website with a view to buying extra blouses. And while we were in the shop, a German couple came in to buy who have been having clothes made there for the past eight years. Can this be the same shop?
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written by Eddie, Sun 12 Apr 2009 00:32:25 CDT
written by Max, Sun 18 Jan 2009 09:22:22 CST
On James' website they say they have been nominated by national geographic as top ten tailor in the world. Take a close look at the scan from the national geographic. Either the national geographic can not spell correctly (enormous lange & Bollt) and their grammar (see below in blue) is terrible or James are lying.

James' fake photocopy job:

http://www.james-fashion.com/quality.html Yes the sme one, and if you werent scammed then you were lucky, coz they have a dreadful reputation!
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written by Suchart, Fri 10 Jul 2009 02:01:17 CDT
Quoting "(4) Select a tailor shop where the staff is _not_ East Indian. That means, the staff is Chinese-Thai. There are only a few such shops in Bangkok, perhaps 1% or less of all tailor shops. (East Indians reading this may feel offended. Volunteers in the "politically correct thought police" may feel outraged and complain to the moderators. I do not apologize for this fact: you will have a lower chance of being cheated by Chinese-Thai tailors, than by East Indian tailors)"

Did you know that JAMES Fashion is owned by Thai-Chinese? Not only james fashion but 99% of tailor shop who hire tuk tuk and taxi drivers to bring them customers.

My suggestion to people who are looking to purchase tailor made garments is to walk on sukhumvit road and see any tailor who seems to be busy with their work without any tout outside.

And if you are paying 4000 or 5000 baht a suit, you would get shit.

Fork out 10,000 and see the difference.
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written by Philby, Sat 11 Jul 2009 10:28:24 CDT
Again... learn to say no. I had shirts made in Kamala Beach in Phuket, only a couple of dozen shops in the whole town but half of them tailors, all had touts and several including ours (Mr Krishna) were run by Indians (I also susect that all had their orders actually made at the same factory by the same people, nevertheless) my shirts, tailor made in excellent fabrics cost me the equivalent of A$20 each, I'm still wearing them a year later and going back to get more. Negotiate, be friendly but be firm, you'll need to pay a deposit but pay in cash. William K's statement that "Thailand is good for one thing, providing girls for the night economy" may have something to do with what he goes there for. I wasn't there for that but I found the country beautiful, the people friendly, the food delicious and the hospitality outstanding.
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written by Dayna T Gilbert, Tue 21 Jul 2009 08:14:16 CDT
I was taken to James Fashion bya Tuk-Tuk driver on April 16 2009 in Bangkok, Thailand. A friend and i both ordered $85 dollar blouses. We were not charged a dime over $85 and we got exactly what we paid for. I will admit we were watching out for scammers but were not aware that James Fashion were scam artists. I jsut know they did not scam us that i know of.

I do know we went to a travel agency and bought a Tour the same Tuk-tuk driver took us to. We found out later we could have gotten it cheaper from our Hotel's service. Live and learn i guess.
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written by Live in Bangkok, Tue 21 Jul 2009 15:45:59 CDT
85$ for a blouse in Thailand.
That is funny.
15$ would be about right.
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written by Mike, Thu 27 Aug 2009 06:33:57 CDT
Why in the world would you use a credit card in Thailand?
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written by Sidney, Thu 27 Aug 2009 10:13:43 CDT
"Why in the world would you use a credit card in Thailand? "

@Mike, I think you mean a non-Thai credit card right?
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written by mikey, Thu 27 Aug 2009 21:54:54 CDT
mike


I use my paypal card and citibank visa with no problems in bkk and hkt.

they have a good level of protection for fraud

( at least so far so good for me)


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written by Bill, San Diego, Sat 29 Aug 2009 00:34:15 CDT
Weird. I had a good experience with James Fashion back in 2003, and was planning to return to them later this year when I visit Thailand again. A friend and I had some really nice silk and linen shirts made, and the price was excellent. (About $15 apiece.) The shirts have held up very well, too.
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written by S!@W, Sat 29 Aug 2009 02:40:24 CDT
Lead to this shop by our tour guide- saw loads of other tourists in there!!

Kept on showing us brochures of luxury brands and mentioning about the quality of their cotton- it was crap!

Never really thought of it as a scam as we were never interested in purchasing suits/shirts etc
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written by MRDAVE, Mon 31 Aug 2009 05:32:29 CDT
I got a Taxi and the driver wanted to take me there,I m sure its the same shop, he said he got money to bring people to the shop, so I said ok, you can take us so you get paid, as he said he got paid even if we didnt buy anything, it looked ok inside though I thought the shoes were pricey, I got a pair of dress pants made which were the same price as off the pegg ones from the uk, they even brought it to my hotel, my advice would be pay cash as they cant charge you more this way, I ve got to say Im very happy with my pants,
also noticed a lot of Tailers in Pattaya first time I walked down beech road I must have shaken hands 5 times with various Tailors, they also have a habit of saying I no your brother just to spark up a chat, we ended up just walking past as if they were invisable in the end, it works.
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written by Dave B, Fri 30 Oct 2009 01:02:22 CDT
Hi there,

I had a suit and quite a few shirts made up by James Taylor in Thailand when I went there with my wife on our honeymoon a few years ago. I have to say the suit is amazing and the quality of the cut and the material is superb. I think there may be a few tailors using the same name to confuse. The e-mail address in the pocket is This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and the make is James Taylor Fashion International. I can't remember where it was in Bangkok but the premises were impressive.

I think the key is that if you are looking to get a suit made, make sure you get the transport there yourself then you are under no obligation and no commissions are to be paid out.

As in any country, you get what you pay for. When I first went in I looked first and foremost at the quality of the material. You can get cheap suits for a cheap price, but the key there is the labour cost is cheaper so spend your money on the material and you can't go wrong. Also a guide is how many fittings there are and also ask to take a look at the suits in progress.

My wife also had some dresses made, but they were a disaster, not from a fit point of view but she got carried away with fabrics that looked ok in Thailand but not great when we came back home.

Enjoy the experience. Another way to find a good tailor is ask the concierge at a good hotel or expats from embassies.. There was another good place opposite James Taylor where President Clinton went. I'm sure you couldn't go wrong there either!

Happy shopping.
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written by Martin, Mon 02 Nov 2009 06:44:04 CST
I had a tuxedo made. Really REALLY good quality, 10,000 baht. The men who dealt with me were east Indians, but the men who measured me up definitely looked Chinese. The tuxedo is amazing. Such good quality. A policeman who took us out to dinner suggested it because he said when he has to get his ceremonial uniform, he gets it made there (the army as well). 5 piece tuxedo, red silk vest, Kashmir jacket, a perfect fit. Looks like something I could walk down a red carpet in. I found places willing to make me the same tuxedo for 6,000, or a suit for 3,500, but my gut instinct said go with James Fashion. Oh and about the tuktuks, of course they get commission and fuel vouchers, that's just how Thailand works, get over it or stay home.
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written by sbj, Thu 19 Nov 2009 05:47:51 CST
I noticed that the posts seem to be interchanging Jame's Fashions and James Tailors. They are across the street from each other. I recently purchased some suits and blouses from Jame's Fashions. In retrospect, I could have bargained more. Some things to keep in mind - proper tailoring takes multiple visits (this is true wherever you are), the salesman are assertive and pushy and you need to be just as assertive and pushy. They will push to deliver to your hotel. Push to visit their store for all fittings. In all, I went three times and ended up with nicely fitting clothes. Had I picked up after 1 or 2 fittings I would have been unhappy. I would suggest getting everything in writing. They will give you a receipt, but make sure that it has everything that they have in "the book" and details what you're getting so there's no dispute later. Use a credit card. It will give you some protection that cash won't. Adjust your expectations. A high quality product isn't going to be had so the bargain basement prices that you see advertised.
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written by Apples, Wed 02 Dec 2009 13:26:20 CST
I live in bangkok and have done for nearly 8 years - ive tried and array of tailors and since a mix of experiences always stayed with Gulati on corner of nana Soi 3 - Sam and Jez offer a good service and if there have ever been things im not happy with theyve made changes as and when required.
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written by Todd, Wed 02 Dec 2009 16:49:45 CST
Thanks for the tip Apples, but how do we know your not Sam, Jez or even Gulati biggin up your shop?
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written by Klaus, Sun 03 Jan 2010 09:23:04 CST
Tailors: James Tailor Fashion

It all might look quite fancy and high quality. They even have bodygards in front of their doors and do also pick up from your hotel. The guys there know how to make a customer to feel like you are in good hands. BUT you are not. They can even show you the "Best of Best"book in which they are mentioned in as one of the best tailors in Bangkok.

Don't buy anything there. The material they show you looks quite good but after one time wearing it you see that it is the biggest crap.
My wife's dresses were very badly tailored and after one time wearing there were already holes in the dresses.
I bought two suits which were quite OK at the beginning but after one time wearing it the material looks and feels like the ones from the 80ies!

It was so a ripoff the worst thing we ever bought in our life!
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written by Hans, Sun 03 Jan 2010 14:51:55 CST
What was the cost Klaus?
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written by Janna, Sat 09 Jan 2010 20:35:20 CST
We also had very good experience having clothes made and altered by James Tailor. they try to please.
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written by Ali Shafiq, Sat 09 Jan 2010 21:44:41 CST
@Janna, oh really now! So if I go and get a suit made by " James Fashion " and it falls apart after a weeks wear, will you reimburse me?
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written by Hidi Takahashi, Sun 10 Jan 2010 09:10:40 CST
i had problem with taylor shop, janna, are you marry to mr james
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written by andy Knapp (UK), Fri 22 Jan 2010 19:35:52 CST
I have bought from Gulati many times both face to face and from the UK. I have had one suit 10 years and I am still wearing it regularly. They speak great English and in my experience have been true to their word.

Andy Knapp
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written by andy Knapp (UK), Fri 22 Jan 2010 19:37:11 CST
I have bought from Gulati many times both face to face and from the UK. I have had one suit 10 years and I am still wearing it regularly. They speak great English and in my experience have been true to their word.

I lived in SFO for a time and got scammed there....it can happen anywhere. Gulati looked after me (and my friends(.

Andy Knapp
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written by David, Sat 23 Jan 2010 01:03:41 CST
@Andy Knapp, totally disagree, I had a really bad experience with Gulati, and will NEVER go back. By the way, why did you use a capital letter only in the surname (strange)? Are you English, no, are you an employee of Gulati, yes! Better luck next time my friend, ha, ha, blo... hee.
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written by Matthew Sidcup, Sat 23 Jan 2010 09:01:49 CST
@David, I too don't believe Andy Knapp, its obvious he's trying to give some positive publicity Gulati. A message for Gulati, give the customer more then they expect and you'll have a queue of people outside your shop! But you, as most Thai /Chinese business people prefer to shoot themselves in the foot.
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written by I wish a driver would take me to James Fashion, Sun 24 Jan 2010 04:16:00 CST
Once a cabbie told me he'd drive me to Kao San from Nana for free if I stopped at James Fashion and this other place that makes wallets and belts out of stringrays. It was quite nice buying 5 pairs of trousers custom made out of Italian fabric. They said dry clean only but I machine washed them and 6 years later they have held up better than a pair of Levis. James Fashions was the best Tailor Shop experience in the world with those great resident Bangkok Seik dudes that spoke great english and delivered the trousers to my hotel a week later. I cannot find the place now but with the weak dollar and all the cheap Chinese goods here it is probably not that great a deal any more. I met a sharp lawyer from LA and she spent several thousand at James on yuppie ladywear for back home after she was just made partner. She agreed. The drivers WILL lie like rugs to veer you to their commission or petro coupon. BEWARE and don't close the door unless the cabbie can communicate, knows where to take you and that meter is flipped. Bangkok has great boat, rail and bus transport and taxis should be avoided.
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written by Gullible Gullible, Sun 24 Jan 2010 07:35:06 CST
Too the dude above, can you prove what you say about " James Fashion " or are we all to believe what you say? I'll just say, your talking from your rear end.
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written by Christian, Tue 02 Feb 2010 18:00:53 CST
I bought 2 suits and 2 shirts and got 3 ties for free. Total sum 16.000 baht.
The service was impecaple and the suits look like a million bucks!! I have no complaints what so ever!

James Fashion rules!

Btw regarding taxis in Bangkok I had zero problems, just aske them to use the meter. Its so damn cheap it's ridiculous!

There are crooks everywhere in this world but I didnt see any in Thailand - Love Thailand love Bangkok
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written by Christian, Tue 02 Feb 2010 18:02:13 CST
Yes yes I know I could have gotten 3000 baht suits in other places, but Im happy with mine and they cost a fraction of the price in my home country.

James Fashion FTW
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written by Mad X Customer of James Fashion, Tue 02 Feb 2010 22:01:27 CST
@Christian, I don't believe you, because I got a suit made last week by " James Fashion " and it fell apart this afternoon whilst I was giving a presentation to my CEO! I will NEVER EVER set foot in James Fashion again, you've all been warned.

Christian, how long have you been working at " James Fashion "?
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written by jeRm, Sat 06 Feb 2010 00:57:19 CST
I just got back from bangkok... i was at gulati and was treated extremely well there... made a suit, with 2 extra pants, and an array of 6 shirts... gf also made 3 shirts there... it all came out splendid! the fitting was perfectly done! i made a suit at armani about a block away and it sucked... the gulati suit cost me 8000 baht and the armani one was 3000... the armani one was off a couple of times and after multiple fittings, still cant match the gulati one no matter what... i love the service gulati provides and the quality of their goods... would really love to get back there soon for a visit... i say this out of gratefulness at the good deals that gulati gave me...
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written by Simon Debaufert, Sat 06 Feb 2010 12:52:34 CST
@jeRm, everyone knows that James Fashion can't make anything that won't fall apart after a week, why are you biggin them up, do youhave any vested interests perhaps?
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written by Samme the Swede, Wed 17 Feb 2010 17:07:24 CST
After a guided half day trip, me and my girl were brought to James Fashion after a stop first at a jewelry shop. I had a strange feeling and were suspiscous. But I´ve made a stop earlier at another taylor shop and were thinking of to get a suit. After all talk about quality and recommendations, I said I was interested, but didn´t really have the time. My flight home was next day and we had other things planned. Then the salesman said to me we could do the fitting right no. Then another salesman said something to him in a foreign language and looked harsed to him. And my salesman suddenly changed his mind and said we do the fitting early morning the nextday. I got the deal and were very satisfied with the suit. However I have this strong feeling that their suits are premade and that they only meassure you to know what size you are. This feeling gets stronger when you think at it afterwards and recons that he always recommended you to choose between 2-3 different models and then 2-3 different colors. I said I wanted a special cut on the shirt and wanted it realy short. He recommended me to not. But I told him thats how i wanted it. When I recieved the suit at the hotel the next morning I was really happy with the quality and the fitting of both suit and shirt. But I noticed that the non regular things I asked for the shirt was missing. Wich makes more me believe that it´s all premade and not taylor made for you!
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written by Bert, Wed 17 Feb 2010 18:37:53 CST
@Sammy the swede, well done for sussing them out, I too thought there was something strange about the fitting and them insisting on delivering the suit to my hotel. I dismissed it at first and after reading your email above, the puzzle is now complete. I just can't believe the way these people do it with the biggest smile I've ever seen, really two faced!
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written by Sean, Thu 04 Mar 2010 20:05:57 CST
I heard from a tailor/bar owner over a few drinks, after i had purchased a long jacket in James, that the tuk tuk drivers get 300 baht for each drop off (no sale necessary) and up to 35percent on any thing bought by a dropped off "customer". Probably all to be taken with a pinch of salt but He also told me that all suits were mass made in the same factory for all the tailors and that the materials and machinists were the same. of course then he offered me a suit for alot less..... James are supposed to keep their more expensive material upstairs and the cheap crap downstairs so if you are going to get ripped off by these people at least take some good fabric!?! I was green in Bangkok traveling around Thailand for a few months now and I'm dreading returning to James for my Coat I'm quite large so not easy to find such a jacket for such a price at home in Ireland that's if it is what i wanted in the first place... sure C'est la vie... live and learn I guess.
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written by Sean, Thu 04 Mar 2010 20:08:22 CST
I am aware buying the jacket was silly when i had so much time but i need to sort out my finances.... silly Impromptu thought i guess. It's done now!! :S

If you are going to bargain... walk and ask for the tuk tuk money discounted after some time here I've noticed that you can't beat asking, keeping calm bargaining and drinking as much free beer, tea coffe, food as you can.... Do a shop crawl for a night on the tear ;) use the system. get a tuk tuk to take you free where ever you want to go tell him you'll stop for his "fuel voucher" walk in keep calm and buy nothing! free travel in Bangkok just leave a little earlier and take in a few extra attractions.... Highway men of the highest degree!! definitely worth seeing them in action... Did i mention the free beer?
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written by Mick, Thu 04 Mar 2010 20:37:14 CST
Bejesus Sean, I'll be down there tomorrow evening, thanks.
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written by Nick from Australia, Fri 02 Apr 2010 16:01:32 CDT
Reading all these comments I guess that we have to be very careful reagrding the exact names of various tailor shops. My experience with JAMES TAILOR was just outstanding. They were punctual, efficient, polite and technically first class.

two weeks ago in March 2010 I bought 5 suits and 18 shirts from them - the tailor was Charlie, a very good man. No doubt about it - a first class job, top quality job and good value.

Probably not the cheapest but great value.
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written by Jason Carter, Sun 04 Apr 2010 09:27:55 CDT
Have to disagree with Nick above, I had the complete opposite experience at " James Tailor " so either Nick is working for the forementioned tailors or I'm lying? Take your pick readers?
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written by Stan Haidl, Mon 05 Apr 2010 01:01:52 CDT
All of the different comments are confusing to me. I was in Thailand 5 years ago and was taken to James Tailor by a can driver. I bought a Manradin collar suit, 3 shirts, 2 blouses and 4 pairs of trouser for about $800 US. I have been very satisfied with everything except 2 mandarin collar shirts where the top button doesn't close exactly right. I will be in Bangkok again in Jan.2011 and plan to buy more things at James unles someone comes up with a better idea.
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written by Bangkoker, Mon 05 Apr 2010 05:51:44 CDT
My friend works for a tailor in Bangkok.
99% of the shops are rip offs.
The shop pays the seamstress(15 year old girl) 200 baht to sew it together.
The shop gets the fabric for free on consignment and pays around 1,000 baht for the material (after you pay).
They deliver it on a motorbike taxi for 20 baht.
See, most shops have less than 1,300 baht invested in that suit.

Now you know.


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written by Sean McGrady, Mon 05 Apr 2010 12:15:09 CDT
That sounds about right Bangkoker, I too heard this is what tailors do as my wifes father owns a sweat shop factorym that makes up these clothes.
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written by Jonathan, Thu 22 Apr 2010 19:21:39 CDT
Do not go to "Jimmy's Finest Tailoring" 73/6 Corner of Soi 3/1 Sukhumvit Road, Bangkok. I learned the hard way. They substituted high-quality fabrics for cheap ones.
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written by Wes, Wed 23 Jun 2010 23:23:42 CDT
Gulati Tailors on Sukhumvit and Soi 3 is owned by East Indians and delivery top quality products at a fair price, and have for twenty years that I have been going there.

W
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written by Mick, Thu 24 Jun 2010 21:53:40 CDT
Wes, thats funny, because when Gulati made up my suit, it fell to pieces in less then a month!
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written by Lunar Lost Boy, Wed 28 Jul 2010 16:18:09 CDT
I've had my Gulati suits 3yrs now, no major problems, aside from the odd button coming off which could happen on any suit, went there for suits during a holiday as a family friend lived there a long time and recommended them. Not sure if name dropping got me a better product but I'm surprised to hear people say they are poor. I've had Saville Row tailoring and it is probably better fabric from SR, however I also bought another made to measure in England and its not as good as gulati which was qtr price. Maybe I was lucky, but Gulati do get 'local' recommendations...
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written by Robert, Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:07:30 CDT
Hi this is Robert buy suits in khaoson road VIP tailor small but realy good quality and good price pay 5000 bath they have 3000 also 7500 bath I buy just standdat quality
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written by Robert Baniya, Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:25:26 CDT
ThiS is special for mr Stan haidi my name is Robert I have my shop in khaosan road we have three shop we have fore diffrend quality for suit I know you by suits in james fashion is all ways expensive you sad 1suits 3 shirts2blouse and4pants yes and you pay 800$ same price you can gat for 2more suits suits quality is best primium top quality as I sad we have fore diffrend quality normail medial good and best primium top is send me a mail before you come to Bangkok send me mail This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it / This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it if you have time you go to YouTube overseastailor you can see me at thear
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written by Arshil Najgi, Thu 05 Aug 2010 18:46:29 CDT
Advice to everyone, beware of all tailors, including the guy above, just do some research before commiting to one!
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written by Kate, Sun 15 Aug 2010 13:05:35 CDT
Wow, I am surprised to find so many complaints about this tailor.

I travelled to Bangkok 2 years ago with my husband and we bought 2 mens business suits, 2 mens business shirts, 1 ladies evening jacket and 1 ladies winter coat. All were beautifully made, very very reasonably priced (the dollar was very stong at the time which also helped). I found the service excellent, not pushy at all. They were very patient and helpful, gave us free drinks in the shops, paid for our taxi's to and from the shop (they actually gave us too much money for the taxi so we pocketed the change) and delivered the finished garments to our hotel along with free gifts: 6 silk ties and a beautiful ladies scarf.

Today all the clothing remains in excellent condition, except the suit pants which are starting to wear between the legs (mind you this happens with all suits pants - even the most expensive ones). I have highly recommended this shop to family and friends and intend to return to the shop later this year when I return to Bangkok.

Also, for the record - I am in no way connected with James Tailor, I am simply a very satisfied customer.
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written by TDOG, Thu 02 Sep 2010 16:26:38 CDT
Something funny is going on with this shop. I went to get a second fitting on three suits and picked up a cab outside the Millenium Hilton. I told him I wanted to go to James Tailor and he proceeded to drive right around the Bangkok expressway ring road. He even ran out of fuel and his mate had to turn up in another taxi. In all it took over three hours to get to the shop and watsed an afternoon.
I refused to pay the cab fare, and walked back to Tha Tien pier and got the boat back to my hotel. You live and learn !!
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written by mikey, Thu 02 Sep 2010 22:03:32 CDT
first tip off it mite be a scam is they ask when you are leaving thailand.

if they are in on the scam they will keep the final work to the time you are about to leave, and know you will not be around to cause problems.
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written by Rob, Fri 03 Sep 2010 09:00:44 CDT
" Also, for the record - I am in no way connected with James Tailor, I am simply a very satisfied customer. "

Can you prove that Kate, why so many compalints about this tailor, it must be " a place your bets type " of tailor?
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written by Miles, Thu 16 Sep 2010 15:51:52 CDT
Thanks for everyone's posts. You had better believe we are going to check our credit card charges. We went to James Fashion, taken by a cab driver we had hired for the day. I assume he didn't get anything as he didn't come in, and was otherwise great. Inside JF, they hustle you, but I chose a good fabric and we held to a lower price. Yeah, the salesmen will lie through their teeth, but that's business in Asia. We had one fitting, and the tailor (Chinese) did a good job for size. However, they had no desire for a second fitting (I will definitely do a second and third fitting for the rest of my life), and made the second suit without any fitting at all! Result: the fitting is okay, the suits were cheap, the fabric didn't change, but their detail work on collars is poor, the tailor did not have a sewing machine, so it's done by hand, there was no "James Fashion" label on the inside breast pocket, and the collar should have had some stiff backing. If you can grab these people by the nuts, go for third and fourth fittings, sty around town for three weeks and do and pay for only one suit at a time, perhaps you'll get what you want - good quality at a proper price. My resolution is to study tailoring so I know more, then go slowly next time overseas. You live and learn. As it is this time, I will wear these suits happily for two or three years, then pass them on to someone else. If you feel like an amateur, certainly do not go to James Fashion. If you can grab their balls, and squeeze tight for each item, then perhaps you will be okay. Good luck to everyone.
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written by Dell, Thu 16 Sep 2010 16:15:17 CDT
Thanks for the advice Miles, I see what Rob means now.
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written by J, Thu 16 Sep 2010 21:25:57 CDT
I think it's just a bit of luck how your experience turns out. I had 2 Suits and 4 shirts done recently (same tuk tuk scam, except the staff at James Fashion were quite open that they gave the drivers fuel vouchers worth 600baht for every new customer), and so far they have been no problems. It's only been about a year though so not sure if the suits will hold up, however quite pleased so far. If these suits/shirts do hold up for the next few years I will definitely consider returning their again.
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written by JS, Sat 02 Oct 2010 02:22:04 CDT
JAMES FASHION = SCAM

This company is not only dishonest, but they are unable to do the most simple tailoring. Do not step foot inside of this business.
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written by matt, Sun 03 Oct 2010 18:12:07 CDT
im going to thailand in november and dont intend on buying a suit but considering getting a leather jacket. I have only a beginners knowledge of how to tell good leather from fake leather (smell, feel and burn test)

Any good reccomendation where to go in bkk? i will be staying near kho san road
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written by Mick, Mon 04 Oct 2010 12:08:23 CDT
At Matt, buy one from a department store.
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written by Boon, Mon 01 Nov 2010 06:26:11 CDT
I been to Thailand many time with travel agents, I love Thailand,I have some comment! Don't buy anything with Tuk Tuk or Taxi they are tout because they want only commission ,and they only wait for tourists!
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written by Robb, Mon 01 Nov 2010 20:18:18 CDT
Ahem ahem.. to get a good suit and good tailor, all you have to do is to be yourself. Mean that you find the place and make a go. do not believe your Guide. they are freaking lier. they make the bad reason to other shop to make you go to the shop they want you to go to get 20 or 30% of commission for them whatever. Guide and Tuk tuk are the worst. as one of the Gentle said how come they know about the quality of the custom made clothes without wearing them.I hope they can't even afford.... Just learn by yourself and believe...
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written by LJ, Tue 02 Nov 2010 10:39:57 CDT
I just returned from a trip to Bankok, and did fall for James Tailor. To be fair, the clothes I ordered do fit, with a few minor issues, however they are very friendly and connvinced me that the alterations I requested were not warrented. The entire staff is friendly and I checked my account and was charged what they quoted me, so I was not ripped off money wise.. will find out about the clothes in time. I only had one fitting, and they delivered the finished product to my hotel. They did ask me when I was leaving and I didn't give them specifics, I did have time to return to the shop with any changes if I needed to, maybe if you are considering buying from them, tell them earlier than you are actually leaving for that purpose. They will try to sell you more than what you want (even if you go in not wanting anything) you can bargain, just tell them it's out of your range and they will come down on price. My intitial argument was there wasnt enough time to make the clothes, but they assured me that they would get the clothes to me in time, so that's how they got me.
Word of advice, I had a driver for the day, who took me to many places I didnt want to go to, gemshops etc. I knew about the gem scam before going, didnt think to look up tailor scams. The only place I bought anything from, that he took me to, was James Tailor, dont know if I regret it or not yet, but if you hire a taxi then be prepared.
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written by Michael T, Tue 02 Nov 2010 18:45:12 CDT
LJ, you only need look at the amount of complaints James Tailor has recieved on this thread, enough said!
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written by Anna, Thu 04 Nov 2010 00:36:13 CDT
I have just bought a couple of suits from James Fashion (there is another James across the road so who knows it we are all talking about the same one). It had been advertised on TV as part of an export promotion so we went along to see. I thought the service was excellent. They took detailed measurements and asked me to
Come
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written by Anna, Thu 04 Nov 2010 00:36:13 CDT
I have just bought a couple of suits from James Fashion (there is another James across the road so who knows it we are all talking about the same one). It had been advertised on TV as part of an export promotion so we went along to see. I thought the service was excellent. They took detailed measurements and asked me to
Come
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written by Anna, Thu 04 Nov 2010 00:42:04 CDT
back for a fitting today. I did and everything looked great. They were even able to change the style of skirt when I said I didn't like it. They couldn't have been more helpful. They asked me come back for another fitting when I'm back in Bangkok later this month and then I can pick up the finished suits. I will, of course, be careful of substitutions or unfinished work - as we should all be with any service like this but, at the moment, I feel very happy with what I've got. I think if you are firm and insist on what you want (and don't be naive about it) you'll be fine.

Negative reviews should be listened to but you should also use your own initiative.
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written by Roger, Thu 04 Nov 2010 09:37:56 CDT
At Anna, thanks for the feedback, however, "everything looked great" does not neccessarily mean others will say the same!
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written by tin, Mon 15 Nov 2010 08:59:20 CST
NO WAY. JAMES FASHION is the best! Professional sales people were there. THEY WERE VERY PROMPT and efficient. My bf and I are purely satisfied!
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written by BL, Mon 15 Nov 2010 22:54:44 CST
I just went there by a last stop of tuk-tuk today. I didn't bougt anything in the Gem stores before James fashion as I aware of it might be a scam while was in the first temple the dirver took me. A perfect english speaking people with a tourist book talking to my wife and me. It all about how he can earn his trip money back by buy the gem and sell it to gem store in UK ( He claimed he is a malaysian and work at UK British Telecom). I almost believe him after the 1 store which not really like a government exhibition. Anyway, after this 2 stop at Gem stores that we didn't buy anything. The driver insisit take to James Fashion.
The sales inside is really good at selling and I don't think I will lost big moeny. I gave a try. After all my fun in the city back to hotel, I checked with reception if there is shirt delivered as they promised at 8 pm. Back to the room, I check on the internet and found some article like yours. I think i lost my money. I go out of hotel for a smoke, and the deliver man came. I found only 2 shirt delivered and the favorite one not there. I call back the delivery man, leave his name and number (god know it's real or not). He said he wil check and delver another one to me next day morning. Shit... I should check on the internet eariler.

I bet i won't get the other one and Tai .... is shit ................
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written by ricky, Tue 23 Nov 2010 15:22:48 CST
sounds like many people here lost out because they parted with their money too easily without seeing the final product before handing over the money. I paid a small deposit on 1 shirt before committing to the rest.

The quality and fit of the tailored shirts i got from the real James fashion was excellent, although i have to say they are experts at talking the talk and you should deal with them carefully, and take a lot of what they say with a pinch of salt, the sales guy even started trying to tell me the buttons on my 'higher' qulaity shirt were worth 10 bhat each, i also was pretty surprised to learn the had 'upstairs quality' fabrics and 'downstairs quality' if you dont ask the right questions the cheeky buggers will turn you over pretty quick

the whole process takes about 4 days to be done properly

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written by Jason, Mon 06 Dec 2010 04:34:30 CST
I just got back from Bangkok this morning and knew a lot about the scams by Tuk-Tuk drivers. We were to pay the driver 15 baht to go around the city and see a few different temples, but we were to visit a tailor shop in order for the price to be lower. I was fine with it. We went into a fashion shop and didn't buy anything. THe guy was a jerk and wouldn't even give me a card in case I wanted to come back. We then went about our day. He waited for us outside temples, the restaurant and anywhere we wanted to go. I asked him to take me to another tailor because I was interested in bujying a suit. He then took me to James Fashion International. The sales guy started at 15,000 baht for one suit. i had explained I had already been to other tailors and they were claiming about 4000 baht for a suit. He explained that they cannot be good quality as the material was not made in Thailand. I agreed. He, like everyone else in Thailand started with an unreasonable price and asked me how much I wanted to pay. I stated I wanted to buy two suits and some shirts for about $500 USD. He hassled with me about the price and I did not waiver. I said I was going to leave and that my price was firm. We agreed on 16000 baht for 2 full suits, and 4 shirts. I selected the fabric,he took my measurements, I paid the entire amount. I told him I would be back for the fitting in two days and be returning to Bangkok to pick up the suits in two weeks. The next days at the fitting the jacket still did not have sleeves on it and the pants were too long. The shirt also had a funny style of collar and the tailor recommended I change it. The jacket was also off a bit. They then took some additional measurements and made some changes. I told them I would be back again to try the finished product at the end of my trip. I came back, the staff remembered me, gave me and my girlfriend drinks, and I then tried everything on one last time. They did a really nice job with the changes they made. The shirts and jacket fit nicely and the pants fit incredibly. There was no bunching or folding. I still have not had any wear int he suit and do not know how it will hold up, but this far, I am impressed. It sounds like a lot of the scams regarding this company were like anything else in Thailand, if you go in not expecting to bargain you will get ripped off. Also it seems often there is a rift between the tailors and sales people at James Fashion. The sales people obviously want you to buy regardless of when you leave and at the higest price possible, but if you have time and look around, they are more likely not to rush things and treat your fairly. The tailors are often rushed to product a product quickly because many tourists have flights to catch. If you give it time, you will be able to review to completed product and make changes, it will also give the tailor more time to make quallity adjustments. I also just checked my credit card statement and it has the agreed amount. It seems that these are not scams at all, I mostly blame the consumer for thinking they can get a quality product in a short period of time or not doing their due dilligence. If you are willing to pay more for a product and you are buying it without knowledge, it is your fault.
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written by Rikcs, Mon 06 Dec 2010 14:05:32 CST
Anyone here had any dealing with The Grand Armani Fashion? They are suppose n promised to air mail me the remaining 3shirts to Singapore as they had failed to correct the measurment in time. Now nearly one week aftery Bangkok trip I have yet to received anything.
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written by Rikcs, Mon 06 Dec 2010 14:06:37 CST
Oh ya to add on, I emailed them but no reply. Call to their shop the operator infd number temporary not in use!
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written by Rachel, Sun 16 Jan 2011 18:56:31 CST
Hi all, there still seems to be confusion here - James Fashion or James Tailor? I went to the latter, yet to wear my suits but I'm really hoping they are ok...
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written by maxime, Mon 07 Feb 2011 19:05:32 CST
this is the cheating bussiness 100%,,bcoz they r open very far no shoping area,,they charge u 3 times to 10 times more price and very bad quality and not good finishing ,,i hate them
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written by maxime, Mon 07 Feb 2011 19:07:03 CST
JAMES FASHION AND TAILOR,,,very bad
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written by Chris, Tue 15 Feb 2011 21:19:31 CST
There are so many scams in Thailand and con artists are always looking for new ways to scam tourists. When I was in Bangkok for the first time in 2002 I also experienced an organised silk scam that led me to a shop in which they wouldnt let me leave easily.

Anyway, if you would like to read more perhaps you can read more on my blog,

http://www.mytravellogs.co.uk/silk-scams-in-bangkok/

Hopefully sites like this will help others avoid the same mistakes.
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written by Kaisho, Fri 18 Feb 2011 18:59:37 CST
Hi i'm from Las vegas and I also shopped at james tailor, it was a fun and exciting time for me and my friend who also bought a few suits. I pay about 500 usd. here in vegas for a tailored suit, at james i got 3 complete suites ( jacket, vest, pants,) and each suit came with 3 shirts 3 ties and 2 extra pants were thrown in all for 1k usd. These suits feel and fit great, what i think is if you are not use to buying suits then most shops will take advantage of that, Thailand, New york, or where ever you go, an easy mark is easy money. Know what you are looking for before u go into any shop and dont settle for anything less.
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written by Mr Ethical, Sat 19 Feb 2011 01:45:31 CST
Kaisho, don't lie, stop the smoke and mirror games James Tailor!
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written by irise, Fri 01 Apr 2011 12:29:47 CDT
I was forced by my tuk-tuk drive to this place. no intending to buy anything, but would like to go around to have a look since i was here. By asking the salesman to show me some fancy and stylish outfit catalogue, he was so rude to me and insulting me, saying im not suitable to be here because I JUST LOVE CHEAP STUFF!!! AND THEY DONT HAVE CHEAP STUFF HERE TO SELL!! what is the attitude of customer service?? I thought they should try to persue me to buy something instead of bullshit me.

DONT EVER GO TO THIS FASHION AND TAILOR!!!
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written by TyAnne Guida Rezac, Sat 09 Apr 2011 15:58:39 CDT
We LOVE James Fashion International in Bangkok. Email: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it We live in Mumbai and have access to excellent world class tailors just out our front door. Here's why we love James Fashion:

1. After over a year they located my husband's suit order and were able to make four more pairs of pants in two days, delivered to our hotel.
2. I ordered two suits - and two blouses - and when those were delivered to our hotel and after a second fitting one blouse was still not correct - the tailor who brought them took more measurements, went back to his factory, and altered it. At 11:00 p.m. in the evening, returning it at 1:00 a.m. at the front desk.
3. We walked in the door after over a year and my husband's 'salesman' remembered Craig.
4. The quality and workmanship is outstanding.
5. We attend a national conference in Bangkok every year, and James Fashion is the only tailor that our conference organizers will recommend.

I don't know what else is going on that is making everyone dis James Fashion. But they are a well oiled machine and do great work. No pressure. Fine fabric. And willing to work with you regarding deliveries, adjustments, shipping, etc. etc. We would never complain about them. The staff are amazing. See Win and Vikey for help when you get there. And thank them again from TyAnne in Mumbai.


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written by David, Sun 24 Apr 2011 02:49:10 CDT
I've been using Gulati's for more than 20 years after a friend in BKK introduced me. I've tried others but always regret it. Not everyting comes out perfect but they will fix it until it is right.
I've had a pronlem or two and they credited me or replaced -no questions asked.

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written by Mick, Mon 25 Apr 2011 12:04:49 CDT
At David, your talking bull, Gulatis is 11 years old, I should know, I refurbished the shop!
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written by Are, Fri 29 Apr 2011 18:45:57 CDT
I bought several cotton shirts and a couple of trousers at James Fashion in 2005. I still use the shirts, and after 6 years of regular use they have all the buttons intact! They are the best shirts I have ever had.
I found the service exellent and the price ok. The shirts and trousers were ordered in the afternoon and delivered to my hotel before leaving next morning. Everything as agreed on. My best recommendations!
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written by Malik, Sat 30 Apr 2011 18:08:00 CDT
At above, you lie, you employee of James Tailor, if they give shirt free, i no want!
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written by Are, Sun 01 May 2011 22:42:36 CDT
Who said free? I paid the price we agreed on. Not more, not less. And I do not lie!
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written by Tam, Sun 15 May 2011 23:26:19 CDT
My bf and I just got our jackets made for 10000baht today from James Fashion. I'm worried after reading this now. We will be contacting them tomorrow. Wish me luck. If they don't deliver we will make sure the world knows about this.
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written by Chu, Mon 16 May 2011 11:03:25 CDT
"6 years of regular use they have all the buttons intact"

I agree with Malik, your lie Are, Six years an yu still ware, yu no good and work fo4 tailor.
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written by i just came from there.. and - am very happy, Tue 24 May 2011 21:45:19 CDT
i just came from there - the same story - i knew nothing, ordered suit for 4000 baths - delivered perfectly within 5 hours, into hotel near airport.
i did not try it - no reason to do so, as was just about to leave to go home.

i came home, tried it - and all fits perfectly !
conclusion - tuk tuk guys are crazy taking you anywhere
sales is perfect

and me = happy customer :) all worked fine for me
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written by Ralph, Wed 25 May 2011 10:41:56 CDT
Are, using a different name are we, liar, liar pants on fire!
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written by Ralph, Wed 25 May 2011 10:44:27 CDT
i just came from there.. and - am very happy,


To Are, ha, ha, ha...
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written by Ernest Loh, Wed 25 May 2011 11:53:11 CDT
I seriously have mixed feelings abt this. Im from malaysia and earlier this month i went in to James Fashion at sukhumvit road. I was talking abt tailored made suits in bangkok to my family but had no intention of getting one whatsover - i was in the bus of the tour guide. She suddenly stopped at james fashion and i dint even asked her to do so. (i suppose this is commisioned?) She said its the best..bla bla. So we just went in, looked around and was convinced to make 3 shirts for 2500BHT and a suit jacket for 3000BHT. I paid fully exactly wat was agreed on the spot, with cash and it was delivered to my hotel the following day. Although some alterations were made, it fitted and felt fine just before my departure. And its cheaper than my home country... however, I told them to copy exactly another shirt that i already tailor made(by them) but they made the bottom shorter and my suit jacket felt too long after i tried it again in m'sia. Quality wise, i just think could have been better on certain areas, overall better than some ready mades i have.

its funny that so many ppl are dissing this brand.....

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written by Albert, Sun 29 May 2011 10:07:53 CDT
At above, where theres smoke...
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written by Brian, Sun 05 Jun 2011 17:49:19 CDT
I had a delayed flight passing Bangkok on my way home from Australia to Denmark some years ago (I think it was 2006), so I had to spend a day in Bangkok.

I went on a tour around the city with a private guide, and I asked for her to take me to a tailor shop, and we went to James Fashion (the one with the email address on the inside)

I bought 2 suits (one black normal cloth, and one silk), and bought also 4 shirts all silk, and got 3 cheap ties for free. Since I only had the day there, I paid a little extra to get the suits shipped back to Denmark. Risky, I know... however, a month later or so, they all appeared fine in the mail.

I've now worn these suits and shirts 3-4 times a week ever since. The suits are both looking fine still. I have them both dry cleaned a number of times, and only damage/wear is a couple of lost buttons (which I just had put back on)

The shirts are quite good as well. The cloth is showing some wear, with the classic little dots appearing on the most worn placed where the cloth rub against other parts of cloth or inside the suit.

I think I paid around 12000 Baht for all of it.

I did contact James Fashion some time ago to order some more suits, but I got the message that the shop had burned and they had lost all the measurements etc. Prob a lie..

I will go back though, since the quality that I personally got was on par with the clothe available in the shops, and I always have problems getting a good standard fitting (I have disproportionate long arms and short body..)

Reading all the comments here, I hope that I will be able to get same quality as I did previously. I guess I will find out.
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written by Todd, Tue 07 Jun 2011 08:21:57 CDT
@Brian, totally disagree, I had a really bad experience with James Fashion, and will NEVER go back.
I would call it a hit and miss tailor!
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written by Ralph, Wed 08 Jun 2011 10:08:50 CDT
Totally agree with Todd, had some shirts made a few months ago, now Im using them as dusters!
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written by Net, Sun 12 Jun 2011 12:25:48 CDT
We also have had a great shop at James Fashion. One (ladies) long coat, mens sports jacket, three shirts and three trousers. They collected us from our hotel for one fitting and brought the clothes to our hotel for further adjustments and returned them all back to our hotel before our flight (around 48 hours turnaround...amazing). Price was reasonable for what we bought and transaction went through exactly as negotiated. They were professional and polite and never once did we feel we couldnt say "NO".
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written by Harry, Sun 12 Jun 2011 19:04:16 CDT
To Pinocchio above you're nose just got longer...

The guys there know how to make a customer feel like you are in good hands. It all might look quite fancy and high quality. They even have security guards on the front door as well as a pick up service from your hotel. They can even show you the "Best of Best" book in which they are mentioned as the best tailors in Bangkok.

Don't buy anything there. The material they show you looks quite good but after one time wearing it you see that it for what it is...
My wife's dresses were very badly tailored and after several dry cleans fell apart! I bought two suits which were quite fine at the beginning but after 2 months were unwearable. It was such a ripoff.
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written by The Insider, Thu 30 Jun 2011 15:00:35 CDT
I am Thai and I know the tourist trap business structure very well. I would like to share a few FACTS with you.

1. Some one posted above about the Tuk Tuk and Taxi getting 300 bt for just getting tourists in the door is TRUE.
2. Commission can ranges from 35% to 70% depend on the prior arrangement made between the person taking you there and the store.
3. If you are taken by Taxi or Tuk Tuk the commission are usually SIGNALED or radio in by the security guard at the front door after you have walked in.
4. If you come in with a hired tour guide and they know you are loaded then you will be subject to very high commission added to your final price.
5. These suits are made in sweatshop factory where conditions are way below western working standard. It is these place where they loosely make your suits and the have a final fitting cut to your size. They do not employ their own tailor shop.
6. Just for comparison, typical Thai would pay around Bt2500 for a custom cut suits (Jacket and pants) at MBK Center. The higher premium material cost wouldn't add too much more than one thousand to your final price. The rest of the balance are RIPPED OFF from your pocket.
7. I have had experience buying "Hugo Boss" fabric in the clothing district in Bangkok to have custom tailored and it did not cost more than a thousand Baht for the fabric and Bt500 for the labor.
8. If a Tuk Tuk threaten you then you should pick up the phone and call the tourist police immediately (1155). It is best not to fall for a free ride scam.

The No.1 tailor shop to avoid is James Tailor.
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written by ROdricks, Sat 02 Jul 2011 18:57:25 CDT
@insider do yo have any recommendation for a tailor shop? where is mbk center?...

after reading the comments i really dont know what to think, me and my family bought several suits, shirts and dresses from james fashion in 2007 and the quality was superb. I still have the suits, heheheh they dont fit any more...some pounds bigger now.... i was planning to go again this year and get a new pair of suits.

About the price, we didnt get "very cheap" or "for free" but we certainly got it cheaper than in mexico from were i am. BTW, we spent about 4 hours in the shop haggling and bargaining... in mexico its a common thing so it wasnt an issue... we manage to drop prices more than a half... i dont know if the bad experiences are because maybe the owner has changed, they were different tailors with the same name or the experience depend only on luck...

About the commissions i dont totally disagree, at the end everybody is trying to make a living and if even with commissions its still cheaper than many places.... as for the underpaid labor well what do you expected? thats the way it goes... or you really believed levis, nike, ck and armani pay very well the labor in mexico and central america?.... in 2010 there was a scandal for the world cup because addidas and other soccer ball makers were paying pakistanis stitchers USD$.35cts per ball (u can google it)... so my point here is... that they´re not doing anything more or less than a "reputable" brand is doing...
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written by Will be in Pattaya in 4 days, Sun 17 Jul 2011 19:23:41 CDT
For vacation from Iraq. Me and some friends are all interested in getting a couple suits or shirts made. I was trying to find some good places to go in Pattaya, anyone have any ideas?
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written by dotman, Sun 31 Jul 2011 13:50:55 CDT
Be aware there are two separate tailors - James Taylor and James Fashion. They are opposite each other on the street. When you are shown the NatGeo book by James Fashion it references James Taylor as the top six tailors in the world and when you read this thread posters are saying that James Taylor was good and James Fashion was crap.
Interesting that the page on the James Fashion has been through Photoshop to read James Fashion. Just look and chat and when the pressure starts tell them that you want to look in other stores for the "right" colour and to just be sure you are making the right choice. You will be amazed how fast the price drops to get you to close the deal.
ALSO the fabrics you are shown are fake also!!! They have the right words woven down the side of the bolts but are all polyester/wool mixes. Strongly suggest you go to a tailor close to home and learn to pick quality cloth before you get scammed.
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written by Yank, Mon 01 Aug 2011 14:10:54 CDT
"James Taylor as the top six tailors in the world"

Yeah right, youll be telling us next that the world is flat...
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written by Amy , Fri 12 Aug 2011 01:29:35 CDT
Hi, wow this is a lot of conflicting information to digest. I visited James Fashion International (439/1 Sukhothai Road, Suanchitlada, Dusit Bangkok, Thailand 10300. Tel. (662) 668-2993-5.www.james-fashion.com) I think its important to be specific about which tailor I am referring to. ( the one with the tel num and email inside the suit jacket.) last sep I arrived by tuk tuk and after bartering the price down and choosing the fabric, got measured for my suit the next day, I then paid, left for Chiangmai and when I returned to Bangkok a week later my suit was there waiting at my hotel. Amazing suit (50% cashmere/ 50% silk) fitted perfectly and great service. If this is the same place that people are referring to as having bad experiences then I am shocked. I am from the uk and am seriously considering having my wedding suit made by them...not sure what to do now?!
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written by Bv, Fri 12 Aug 2011 16:24:07 CDT
I have spent lots of $ at James Taylor on each trip to Bangkok and I say you get what you pay for. There may be cheaper tailors who do as quality a job, but I don't know any. I have gone to 2 other tailors and was not happy. One was cheap and my gown looked like a dime store nightgown. Look at the window displays and compare. What i have gotten from James Taylor is top of the line. The gown they made me was Oscar quality and their tailoring detailed and impeccable. Maybe for your average pair of slacks or shirt, try a cheaper place, but for a show stopper, one of a kind outfit, I highly recommend!
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written by Renato Herrera, Mon 05 Sep 2011 12:38:12 CDT
I just have been read the comments and now I have a bit scare because I spend THB 60,500 in few Suits and shirts, one of the things I have got impressed was when I ask to the taylor whom was attend me about if he knows Carolina Herrera, really the guy said whom is that, i got surprised and thought he was joking about me, but after few question I realize that he dosn't know about CH, well I hope that the few things I bought just could be used to go office.

But really I notice some rare aptitude on he taxi driver he were pushing a lot to go there, but i can not say that he receive some bonus.

Regards.
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written by Brad, Mon 05 Sep 2011 13:43:00 CDT
James Taylor made 3 suits 6 months ago for me, never again!
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written by AnzioB, Mon 19 Sep 2011 22:28:40 CDT
Hi

I was there a few years ago. I had several suits made and my wife had a silk suit and dress made. All very good quality. I am now wanting to use the online order system. Anyone here used it?
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written by Johan, Mon 03 Oct 2011 17:02:59 CDT
I wnet to James Fashion a week ago and bought 3 suites and 12 dress shirts. I'm very happy with the quality and the service.

I stayed at a very well known (very expensive) 5 star hotel and asked the Concierge what taylor to use and he without a doubt recommended James Fashion and I would doubt that a hotel like this one would keep recommending a taylor if it's not good quality.

Will for sure use them again!
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written by Desles, Thu 20 Oct 2011 21:20:01 CDT
Very confusing all these comments. I went there for 8 shirts about 9 years ago and still wear a couple of them, and 5 years ago sent a shirt over to them by mail as template with Dulux colour card with colours I wanted and 10 days later got all shirts I wanted and the template shirt back cleaned and pressed and they were all perfect. I am due for some more shirts now as some off them are getting a bit thin around the kneck so will be back to James Fasion.
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written by BKKEXPAT, Sat 22 Oct 2011 12:02:55 CDT
I have lived in Bangkok for 15 years and have had my share of bad experiences with tailors. I've been using James Fashion exclusively for the past three years. They are more expensive than most, but the quality of the fabric and the workmanship are superb. I recommend them to my own clients who have universally raved about the quality. Some of the whiners above would be better off staying home and shopping at JC Penny.
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written by Tom O'Nolan, Fri 28 Oct 2011 18:11:47 CDT
I cannot understand people saying James Fashion are fakes - you must be the kind of lower-class british/american tourists that think they can get a good suit for ~£100. I was there in easter - recommended by the concierge at my 5 star hotel - paid ~£600 for two suits - both of which are excellent. I paid £80 for two shirts which may seem steep but they are by far the best shirts I have, so £40 each is a great deal when you'd pay far more for the equivalent on Saville Row. I've just called them today to order 4 more shirts which they are shipping to me free of charge. You get what you pay for people
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written by Paul, Tue 01 Nov 2011 01:24:56 CDT
My wife and I were in Bangkok in November 2007 for our anniversary and I was also looking to pick up some custom shirts and suits. I looked around and spoke to a few people and got multiple recommendations. We visited 3 or 4 shops, each of whom sent a taxi to our hotel and when we arrived offered us tea, coffee or beer ...very nice service. Very competetive market!
I found the people at James Fashion the least dodgey and I set to see what I could negotiate. The fein not understanding english, but I was persistent in ensuring we wrote up the invoices in english and they agreed to all amounts.
For $1200 US dollars I got 3 suits, and extra pair of slacks, 6 custom monogrammed dress shirts and 6 pretty hideous ties which have become Christmas gifts to people I do not really like.
The suits get worn almost every week, esp the grey and extra slacks with navy blazer and have held up very well and I can say, still look fantastic. The shirts are incredible. They have lasted 4 years of weekly laundering and while the foundation materials in the collars are starting to break down, there is no wearing through in any of the sleeves, elbows, french cuffs, collars or other areas.
There has been slight pilling on the front of the navy pinstripe suit trousers that my wife shaves off every six months or so.

Yes, the tailors are very high pressure in Thailand and are looking to make a buck where they can. But if you think things will be free or that you do not need to be careful in your negotiations ...then you can only blame yourself for unreasonable expectations and naivety.
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written by Compton, Wed 16 Nov 2011 09:24:59 CST
This past March I was in Bangkok and was on a layover, I had to be at the airport at 5am the following morning. I took a tuk-tuk to James (tuk-tuk's are free in Bangkok FYI, just get them to take you where they recommend and also have destinations of your own. The tuk-tuks get free gas coupons from these places ie: jewellery shops, travel agencies, OR James Fashion. If you make a purchase they get more coupons)I entered James at about 3pm the afternoon before my flight and was measured for a suit by Jeff and 1 shirt. I was told to return at 6pm for a fitting, there was a slight delay but about 6:30pm I was fitted and I also ordered 3 more shirts. I told Jeff beforehand of my flight plans and he told me not to worry that the 4 shirts and suit would be DELIVERED to my hotel by 1am. I awoke and checked out at 4am and lo and behold my 4 shirts and suit were waiting for me, and they fit exactly as measured !!! This cost 11,000 baht about $350 but it was worth every penny !! Thanx Jeff and the excellent staff at James !! Also included were 4 free ties !!
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written by Compton, Wed 16 Nov 2011 10:37:32 CST
This past March I was in Bangkok on a layover, I had to be at the airport at 5am the following morning. I took a tuk-tuk to James (after visiting the year previous and not buying anything) Tuk-tuk's are free in Bangkok FYI. Just get them to take you where they recommend and also have destinations of your own. The tuk-tuks get free gas coupons from these places ie: jewellery shops, travel agencies, OR James Fashion. If you make a purchase they get more coupon.I entered James at about 3pm the afternoon before my flight and was measured for a suit by Jeff and 1 shirt. I was told to return at 6pm for a fitting, there was a slight delay but about 6:30pm I was fitted and I also ordered 3 more shirts. I told Jeff beforehand of my flight plans and he told me not to worry that the 4 shirts and suit would be DELIVERED to my hotel by 1am (in 5.5 hrs). I awoke and checked out at 4am and lo and behold my 4 shirts and suit were waiting for me, and they fit exactly as measured and matched the material samples i was given !!! This cost 11,000 baht about $350 but it was worth every penny !! Thanx Jeff and the excellent staff at James !! Also included were 4 free ties !!

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written by Prax, Tue 22 Nov 2011 09:23:33 CST
I read most of these comments and must admit, I am also in the "I was pretty satisfied" group. After a bad experience with another Tailor on a previous trip, I initially had 1 shirt made to check the fitting and it was so good I decided to order another 9. The material is great and its the best "fitting" shirts I own.
I have a non-average physique, similar to that of a bodybuilder so department store shirts are a horrible fit on me.

My only regret is not having any pants made. Im now finding my physique has changed so much in the last year, my normal pants are too tight around the bottom and thighs.
Just in the last 2 months, ive had 2 hugoboss pants rip on me at work on the backside, in fact im sitting on my chair at work in Tokyo with ripped pants. Next time im in bangkok I will definitely be buying a few suits at james fashion.
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written by Jew, Fri 09 Dec 2011 04:15:23 CST
My friends and I were also brought there via tuk-tuk scam. We negotiated $25 per shirt, picked out a total of maybe 30 shirts, and they were supposed to deliver everything to our hotel the night before we left. They did. And all the clothes were good. The button holes are a little small but the fit and material are all I could ask for. Maybe you come off as gringos thai style somehow and thats why they choose to screw you all. I want to get more from their site now.
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written by Jew, Sat 10 Dec 2011 14:30:56 CST
My friends and I were also brought there via tuk-tuk scam. We negotiated $25 per shirt, picked out a total of maybe 30 shirts, and they were supposed to deliver everything to our hotel the night before we left. They did. And all the clothes were good. The button holes are a little small but the fit and material are all I could ask for. Maybe you come off as gringos thai style somehow and thats why they choose to screw you all. I want to get more from their site now.
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written by Sheriff, Thu 22 Dec 2011 03:00:57 CST
I have just got back from Bangkok and was taken to what the Tuk-Tuk drivers call 'The Export Centre' which consists of 2 jewellery shops and James Fashion International. We were under no pretence and knew exactly what we were going in to.
However, I examined the suit fabrics and had a suit made for 9000 Baht (roughly £180), which is what I would pay for a bog standard off-the-shelf suit in the UK. I found the tailor to be very professional and when I needed alterations after the second fitting, they were happy to oblige. As I didn't want to lug the suit around with me (as we were travelling down to Koh Tao before heading back to Bangkok), they held onto the suit for me and delivered it to my hotel room 2 weeks later, with no troubles whatsoever.
Having read some of the horror stories above, I can honestly not believe it is the same place.
Anyway, they have kept my measurements and I will certainly be ordering more suits from them in the future.
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written by TomUK, Fri 23 Dec 2011 15:51:44 CST
I went to James Fashion in Bangkok on the 15th April and was so impressed by the quality I've been trying to buy more from them online.
I bought 5 shirts and a suit which cost £300 (from what I remember) and have worn the shirts many times and the suit still looks fantstic. I did get taken there by a tuk-tuk driver but chose the fabrics I wanted, negotiated a deal and had it all delivered to my hotel at 9pm that night.
Excellent service, great quality and a professional manner; these other comments all seem a little strange
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written by David Wood , Wed 18 Jan 2012 11:57:42 CST
I didn't been bkk tailor,But i've done several suits and shirt with James tailored suit nai yang beach,phuket.It's great stiching and top quality cahmere wool materials and inside silk lining as
well.I'm very impressed with James & Peace for their nice fitting & friendly behavier.I would like to recomend to everyone those who really need a very special working & business suit and shirt.Thanks
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written by Irina S, Mon 23 Jan 2012 02:44:39 CST
!!!!!!Do not go to James Fashion in Bangkok!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Quality is is not acceptable and they are NOT professional at all...We did 3 Suits, 2 Skirts and 5 Shirts there. We got a tip from our friend in Germany, who told us that the quality and prise are perfect. So we went.... At the first time we were app. 1h there, We did not get even one Glas of water and were realy surprise about Prises....But we were sure that the quality are O.K. So we paied around 700€ for everything... We should not do it....Everything looks different.. not nice, not acceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!
I washed my shirts first time today and realise that they look terrible afterwords...I dont think that i can wear it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(((((
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written by Maria, Mon 23 Jan 2012 04:26:10 CST
!!!!!!Do not go to James Fashion in Bangkok!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Quality is is not acceptable and they are NOT professional at all...We did 3 Suits, 2 Skirts and 5 Shirts there. We got a tip from our friend in Germany, who told us that the quality and prise are perfect. So we went.... At the first time we were app. 1h there, We did not get even one Glas of water and were realy surprise about Prises....But we were sure that the quality are O.K. So we paied around 700€ for everything... We should not do it....Everything looks different.. not nice, not acceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!
I washed my shirts first time today and realise that they look terrible afterwords...I dont think that i can wear it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(((((!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by Jason, Thu 26 Jan 2012 07:00:04 CST
Wow I have to say I'm surprised by all the negative comments about your experiences. I just got back from thailand on Jan 7th and I went to James tailers in Bangkok. My private guide we had for bangkok recommended us to them and they treated me like royalty in there. Picked us up from our hotel the Peninsula Bangkok which is not exactly close to their store, with traffic it took about 40 mins to get there. As soon as I stepped in the store the salesman my guide had called for me was there, knew my name and before he showed me anything told me to have a seat and asked if he could get me and my wife anything to drink, Beer, Wine, water anything.
Then while we sat he asked what I was interested in, I told him shirts and suits. He asked me to look through some magazines they had and pick what kind of style I liked. Then he offered us more drinks and took us around showed us all the different patterns and materials and was patient while I picked out what I wanted. We agreed to a fair price for all of them and agreed to a time the next day when he would send a car back to our hotel to collect me for a second fitting and then the car drove us back to the hotel.
The next day the car arrived exactly on time, possibly even a min or two early. We got to the shop I had a seat, and they once again offered us drinks and told us to relax and enjoy ourselves. They didn't have to they already had my money. Suit was looking good, pants were basically done, all my shirts were done and ready to go, just needed another day on the suit jackets.

We told them we had to leave for Chiang Mai but told them we would be back in a week on our way home and we would be in Bangkok for only one night. They said no problem, give us a call the day before and let us know when your back and we'll deliver it to the hotel for you. We said sounds good and left for more vacationing.

We called the day before and they delivered, we got to the hotel and the staff had already hung everything in my room ready to go. They even sent me some free tyes. Everything was as promised and I am quite happy with how everything fits. I will def. buy from them again and I have my salesmans cell number I just have to call and say how many and when I want them.

I had a great experience with them, I wish those of you that didn't had also had experiences like mine, because when it goes right it really was an awesome experience.
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written by Jason, Thu 26 Jan 2012 07:46:17 CST
Wow I have to say I'm surprised by all the negative comments about your experiences. I just got back from thailand on Jan 7th and I went to James tailers in Bangkok. My private guide we had for bangkok recommended us to them and they treated me like royalty in there. Picked us up from our hotel the Peninsula Bangkok which is not exactly close to their store, with traffic it took about 40 mins to get there. As soon as I stepped in the store the salesman my guide had called for me was there, knew my name and before he showed me anything told me to have a seat and asked if he could get me and my wife anything to drink, Beer, Wine, water anything.
Then while we sat he asked what I was interested in, I told him shirts and suits. He asked me to look through some magazines they had and pick what kind of style I liked. Then he offered us more drinks and took us around showed us all the different patterns and materials and was patient while I picked out what I wanted. We agreed to a fair price for all of them and agreed to a time the next day when he would send a car back to our hotel to collect me for a second fitting and then the car drove us back to the hotel.
The next day the car arrived exactly on time, possibly even a min or two early. We got to the shop I had a seat, and they once again offered us drinks and told us to relax and enjoy ourselves. They didn't have to they already had my money. Suit was looking good, pants were basically done, all my shirts were done and ready to go, just needed another day on the suit jackets.

We told them we had to leave for Chiang Mai but told them we would be back in a week on our way home and we would be in Bangkok for only one night. They said no problem, give us a call the day before and let us know when your back and we'll deliver it to the hotel for you. We said sounds good and left for more vacationing.

We called the day before and they delivered, we got to the hotel and the staff had already hung everything in my room ready to go. They even sent me some free tyes. Everything was as promised and I am quite happy with how everything fits. I will def. buy from them again and I have my salesmans cell number I just have to call and say how many and when I want them.

I had a great experience with them, I wish those of you that didn't had also had experiences like mine, because when it goes right it really was an awesome experience.
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written by Dennis, Sat 28 Jan 2012 16:52:38 CST
I have been to J.F. on 2012-01-18. Now I'm back to Germany and I had a look at the suit jacket and the 3 shirts I bought for 11200TBH. They all fit and look good. The quality is good. I don't experienced any problems. The service was very friendly. I will visit J.F. again.
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written by Sarah, Fri 03 Feb 2012 18:42:07 CST
Avoid "Nice Fashion" they are completely deceptive in their business practices.

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