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Restaurant Scam
Sunday, 23 September 2007
I arrived in Bangkok on the 19th August and spent two nights  at the DMA Pavilion Hotel,  On the second night my boyfriend and I decided to go out for a meal. The porter at the DMA asked us where we were going. We told him that we were looking for a restaurant. He told us that he could recommend a good one and that we would be driven there for 20 baht. There was a car parked directly oppostite the hotel entrance i.e. on the hotel ramp. He called a man over and asked us to get in. It was not a taxi. The man drove us to a restaurant about 2km away. The hotel had a car park in front of it with taxis parked there. Our driver drove us right in under the roof of the restaurant i.e. a porch like area. As soon as we got out of the car, we were surrounded by three staff members, shown a display of fish on our left and then taken to the seating area of the restaurant. We felt pressurused but did not protest because we were hoping that it would be a good restaurant as it had been recommended by staff at the hotel. It was, in fact, a very ordinary tourist class restaurant but the prices were  exhorbitant. Main courses that would normally be 60baht in any other restaurant were 300 baht and more at this restaurant. We ordered a plate of plain fried noodles as well as rice to accompany the two main courses we ordered. They charged us a further 300 baht for the noodles. Overall, it was a very banal meal for a very exhorbitant price. Since then we have eaten in some exclusive gormet restaurants that were cheaper than this one. We were surprised that the staff at the DMA were involved in such a scam. We would not have gone to a restaurant recommended by a random taxi driver or tuk tuk driver but felt that we could trust the staff at our hotel to give us a genuine recommendation. Unfortunately we were badly stung in the pocket.
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written by Andy Jewell, Tue 25 Sep 2007 03:58:23 CDT
All front door men in all the BKK hotels I've stayed in have a driver or a taxi handy. All of them will have restaurants, clubs, bars etc who will pay them "tea-money" for farangs they recommend. Rather than accept their choice, get Nancy Chandlers map of Bangkok and make your own. http://www.nancychandler.net

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written by peter wijewardene (Vietnam), Sun 30 Sep 2007 16:59:24 CDT
Never get into tuk tuks when somebody on the road recommends a restaurant and it will cost only 10 Baht to get there !!. The tuk tuk may take you 10 - 20 km away in the night to an unknown destination. Usually this scam operates in front of shopping complexes after or just before the closing time.
The person and the tuk tuk gets a handsome kick back, you get ripped off from a restaurant you do not know where, and the tuk or taxi drivers demand a huge amount (about 200 baht) to get you back to the centre again !!
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written by Thomas Cook, Tue 02 Oct 2007 22:13:11 CDT
Please- give me a break. The fact is that 300 bahy is $8 usd ( hardly exorbiant. However I agree that you shoud be able to trust your hotel. - I was scammed by the Sheraton In Pattaya by their staff for 3 days till i found out the truth .
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written by chicagobob, Fri 12 Oct 2007 16:33:54 CDT
O.K. Work with me on this one, it's small but repetative enough to be profitable. Signs outside many retaurants say, "All you can eat buffet 250b ." In case you don't know, means 10% service, 7 % VAT. So, 4 customers @ 250 equals 1,000b, service, 100b, equals 1,100b, VAT 77b, total 1,177b, right? Wrong!!! You're paying VAT on the "service," sure, it's only 7b, but multiply that by 100 customers a day, 700b/day, 21,000/month. Nice work if you can get it!!!
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written by spiggly wiggly, Mon 29 Oct 2007 12:00:15 CDT
Don't you just hate it when americans tell you how cheap things are by quoting prices in US dollars !!!
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written by Matt, Thu 01 Nov 2007 14:16:40 CDT
Couldn't agree with you anymore spiggly wiggly!! And more importantly it is not the point, it is the principle of the whole scam!! Its people like this who just pay up thinking it is cheap make it worse for the next person. A bit like taxi drivers who don't use the meter & scam people who don't know, but who think that the price is cheap & "back home in the USA it would cost me much more than that" so ill just pay it mentalities is so wrong!!
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written by Eileen McAuley, Sun 16 Dec 2007 00:39:44 CST
Thomas Cook, you missed my point. It doesn't matter what it was in US Dollars or in any other currency or, indeed, what we could get in our own country for the same amount of money. The fact is that due to this scam we ended up paying approximately six times more than the going rate for our meal. We felt deceived. Since returning home and discussing the scams in Bangkok with friends and colleagues, I have found that many people are now avoiding Bangkok due to the unpleasantness of the scams. It's nice to feel that you can trust people when you choose to visit their country. Unfortunately, many Thai people in Bangkok view tourists as targets and the sole aim of these Thai people is to relieve the tourists of as much money as possible through a series of scams which do not provide any value for money to the tourist and have the effect of putting them off returning to Thailand. These people are criminals. Unfortunately, it's probably Americans thinking in dollars that have encouraged them to carry out these scams bacause the Americans don't seem to mind paying exhorbitant prices by local standards for everything. The Thais then think that all tourists are the same which is not correct. After five and a half weeks travelling around Thailand, my strongest memory is the constants attempts by people to scam me in Bangkok. Fortunately, the restaurant scam was the only one I fell for, though I was also constantly ripped off by taxis who refused to use the meter. Only one of about thirty taxi drivers agreed to switch on the meter. Thailand clearly needs stricter law enforcement.
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written by surya, Thu 27 Dec 2007 06:14:39 CST
the fact is, that 300 bath is 2 days salary in thailand and about 10 times more then normal price for noodles.

the american dollar counting is really annoying, does your brain stay in the usa during the visit to thailand? why dont take it with you and realise its a different place here.

but just wait short time, and your dollar will be worthless, loosing value everyday already :-)
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written by Alan, Sat 29 Dec 2007 19:16:46 CST
Any where in the world obvious tourists are going to taken for a ride. Do your ground work before you go to Bangkok look up on the net places to eat ect. NEVER ask anyone working in a hotel for a recomendation unless you like walking around with a big sign DONKEY around your neck. It would be better to ask another tourist who has been there longer than you. If you fall for a scam its your own fault. I have been to Bangkok 15 times and have never been scammed. That doesn't mean it hasn't been tried. With regard to places to eat, Bangkok isn't short there are many places to eat on every main street. Just walk around and look at the menus in the windows. Don't be afraid to go in and ask to see a menu if there isn't one outside. If you don't like the menu you can just walk out again.
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written by Muiris, Mon 07 Jan 2008 04:26:26 CST
Being my first time to post and my first time to go to Thailand in feb '08
I really have learned a lot from reading about good and the nasty things I have to look out for all your comments are much appreciated
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written by Muiris Ireland, Mon 07 Jan 2008 04:40:48 CST
4 of us ( 2 couples ) going to Thailand in Feb.'08, we hope to stay in Grand Inn in Bangkok for 3 nights and then down to Residence Garden hotel in Pattaya for 9 nights, anyone know these hotels and are they ok
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written by Potter-USA, Sat 13 Sep 2008 11:03:31 CDT
"It's nice to feel that you can trust people when you choose to visit their country." Having lived in the USA for 49 years (and a beach resort area for over 10), I have learned that you can trust everyone all of the time- to do exactly what they feel best serves them at any given time. Today they may think it furthers them to help you, tomorrow to scam you- this is true with scammer or tuk tuk in Bkk as well as family, friends, co-wokers, and business persons etc... in your hometown. Mai pen rai!
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written by John, Sat 13 Sep 2008 13:00:40 CDT
Muiris, the grand is ok for a couple of days and the residence garden in Pattaya is nice friendly and safe for tourists. If its your first time in Thailand, read the other reports especially tuk tuk scams and taxi at airport scams. Im sure you will have a good time, Bkk is generally safe.
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written by American, Sun 19 Oct 2008 01:44:44 CDT
Have to have a good laugh at the morons complaining that it's Americans' naivete about prices that led you to act like utter fools and get ripped off in Thailand. Projecting much? It's amusing that whenever someone acts like an ass, they have to project it on the US somehow.
My bf and I are American, and have enjoyed our 2 weeks here. Haven't gotten ripped off once (and we've been pricing everything in baht).
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written by Johnny Be Bad, Sat 21 Feb 2009 18:58:38 CST
Long story short, Don't Trust any recommendations in Thailand.

I think it's interesting that we Americans notice when an INDIVIDUAL rips us off, but when a COMPANY rips us off or our own GOVERNMENT does it, NOBODY NOTICES.

For example, Wal-Mart: MOST of the items they have are from China, and the quality is $#it! They buy it for Pennies and sell it for DOLLARS. And then there's Gasoline which is a scam of the highest caliber because Geologists have been saying for YEARS that Alaska has more Oil in it than ALL of the Middle East

How about the 20% Taxes from your paycheck? Social Security that they've STOLEN so much from it's actually NEGATIVE. Or the fact that they Tax you MORE when you work OVERTIME!!! Overtime shouldn't even be taxed because you're working HARDER than EVERYONE ELSE!!!
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written by no shame, Mon 07 Sep 2009 14:55:01 CDT
My first night in Thailand I got taken to a dodgy seafood restaurant in a side street. Eating area was outside, a heap of seafood on ice on display, plenty of customers. I ordered a heap of stuff, including a lobster that had obviously been treated with some chemical to mask the fact that it wasn't fresh. All the tuk tuk drivers parked across the road and waiting for their customers should have been the first hint that something was up. Saw a big rat scurry through the middle of the tables too.

The poor waiters who brought me the bill looked like they expected me to go ballistic and start throwing tables around. I opened the bill and saw why - 4000 baht. Smiled, chalked it up to experience, and paid.

Anyone wants GOOD seafood at a reasonable price, try the stalls in Sukhumvit Soi 7. Laguna Seafood have been doing a great service there for years.
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written by mikey, Tue 08 Sep 2009 22:08:07 CDT
no shame


did you check the prices before you ordered?
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written by julie, Fri 11 Sep 2009 19:20:08 CDT
Yep that happened to me, it sounds like the same place. We had just landed and wanted a quick evening meal before bed. Our excitement at being in Bangkok for the first time was, in hindsight, incredibly naieve. At the time everything was perfect and no one in this wonderful place would rip us off. How wrong was I???!! It was the lobster that did it bringing our bill to 5000 baht. We did get cold towels though...oh, think they were only 500 baht! Looking back we were stupid, too trusting but it was a great lesson at the beginning of a fantastic holiday. all part of the Thai experience. Booked again for next year.
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written by Hamburglar, Sun 13 Sep 2009 12:25:22 CDT
So how much was the total bill? If it was around 1000 baht I wouldn't really chalk that off as an extreme rip off, steep yes when comparing the food to a food stall or a stop in diner or something. I've eaten in places like Baan Klang Nam, the real Somboon and both bills were around 1000 baht. I think if you mention the total bill was 2000 baht plus then some eye brows may raise but mentioning one fried noodle dish at 300 baht is not helpful enough. That is expensive for fried noodles. No offense but you are almost speaking in riddles so it's kind of difficult to grasp the scam.
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written by Chauvanist, Sat 15 May 2010 06:04:21 CDT
Talk about being scammed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These two poor bf's / husbands have to go to Thailand with their bloody partners. Thats what i call ripped off !!

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