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Police don't help with Bus Theives
Sunday, 04 May 2008

I came from Koh Phanyan to Bangkok via ferry, mini bus and big bus, and during my journey I managed to have a large sum of money stolen from my locked dive bag that was stored away under the bus along with everyone else's luggage. The money was hidden in this bag... but I guess thieves have a good sense and knack for Break and Enters. Long story short. I went to the tourist police to assist me with making a report the Police on Koh San road would understand. So first I wrote up my statement in English. Then a Thai "tourist police" "summarized" my statement which was 3 pages into less than half a page, excluding important and accurate facts. He stated the money was in a small day pack which was with me at my bus seat when in fact it was in my dive bag below.

My point is... they were of no assistance to me. For a team with the goal of assisting tourists, I was pretty disappointed. The pretty girls in short skirts and white blouses barely spoke English and got away with little smiles and told me to just try and forgot my very major problem of now having no money and the men who also spoke little English, more or less thought I was wasting their  time and just another falang. Is this a scam to give tourists the impression people want to help?

I understand there is a chance I will never see this money again. In the last 2 days I have been in Bangkok and shared my stories with fellow travelers, I have met  4 people from the same bus that had their luggage pulled apart and a mess when they opened it up. Two other travels who not less than 2 weeks ago on a similar trip from Surrat Thani to Bangkok, had 1500USD and 2000Aus dollars stolen. Reported the problem and got no help. I know us as travelers are somewhat responsible. Who carries this much money?  For me personally it was a time when I had just been paid for work, no bank account as the banks would not allow me to considering I lived here for such a short time. But aside from the mistake that we made, this is an ongoing problem and the way I look at it, Tourism Authority of Thailand as I’ve read is doing well to promote travel in Thailand. Which travelers like I look for all the time. There are private companies disguising themselves as TAT licensed companies when in fact they are not. How are we to know the difference? So stuff like this happens all the time. Travellers come in on a daily basis to report stuff stolen not only from the baggage compartment under the bus, but right from their laps, their feet, and on the seat next to them. When will this problem be resolved? When will the tourist police actually assist travelers and fight with them to have the police to their job and catch these thieves.

If I drove my motorbike without a helmet, I would be fined. If I broke a shop window and stole a pack of smokes, I would be caught and punished. Regardless of location, if I broke the rules of Thailand, there would not be hesitation by any police force to find me, investigate and punish me if that was the case. From what I have been told, because this is an event that started either in Koh Phan ngan, or Surratt Thani, on the way to Bangkok, Bangkok Police won’t do it, but by phone am I expected to speak to Thai Police in these other provinces?

Anyways I'm not impressed. I've lived in Thailand for the last 7 months working very hard to make the money I lost, have paid a lot to be here... and just sad that at the end of my stay in Thailand... well while I'd forgotten the last 7 months the stereotypes of Thai people, and other cruel things people say. Well how can you not believe some of things people say. 7 Months of enjoying Thailand,  learning to speaking Thai, working to promote the dive industry in Phuket, just overall happy to be there, and in 48 hours, I would not recommend the travel of Thailand. It’s too risky. Little ways to travel safe, don’t know who you can trust, and when a problem arises, you feel very alone. And well it’s just Thailand, “how can you really not expect to be here this long and not get ripped off” What a motto!

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written by Owl, Mon 05 May 2008 21:43:35 CDT
Carissa - which company did you use or was it from a government bus?
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written by Brian 21, Mon 05 May 2008 21:58:19 CDT
I totally agree, when you have a problem in Thailand you are alone, you cannot trust anyone.
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written by Traveller, Wed 07 May 2008 20:17:17 CDT
Advice to all travellers in Thailand, only use authorised buses, the Thai buses are cheap and reliable , safe and comfortable,it may be advisable to wait an extra day until the authorised ticked dealer is open, if the authorised ticket dealer is closed, if you are unsure, purchase 2 tickets, one for you and one for your baggage. Keep all cash , credit cards and passports, cameras etc on your person tucked in a belt under your shirt, never show large amounts of cash.never accept drinks or chocolates from a stranger even if they look wrapped and new. Hope this helps everyone.
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written by Jae, Sun 18 May 2008 20:43:53 CDT
I am interested to know exactly what you expected the police to do to assist you in getting your money? Sure, in an ideal world, they might investigate the crime, solve it and apprehend the criminals. But how would this help you? Once the money is gone, it's pretty much gone unless the police catch the person red handed.

I understand this all must of been deeply unpleasant for you and serves as a warning to everyone to keep their valuables with them at all times... at home or abroad.
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written by mickey, Thu 22 May 2008 19:21:07 CDT
some thais prey on tourists they seem to have a sense of what is in people luggage, a small person will be in the luggage hold and go through evey unlocked bag. even if the police catch them they might bung them some of your money, then you have no hope. by the way it is not allways thai people, they come from Cambodia Laos and vietnam to rob the ususpecting innocent farang.
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written by BUCKY, Tue 27 May 2008 13:36:48 CDT
Thats why I try not to leave my backpack under the bus compartment. Even if I have to, I'll never leave money or valuable items inside it. But frankly, this is what I'll do while travelling and not just in Thailand.
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written by joe, Tue 17 Jun 2008 17:33:43 CDT
You are a fool. Lesson #1 - Keep all valuables (especially Cash) on your person or with you in sight at all times. Do you know what a money belt is? I suggest you invest in one. I have been traveling all over the world for over 25 years and have never ever had anything valuable of mine stolen. And I use a money belt for any cash I carry. Some of it is luck but I attibute most of it to my cautiousness, awareness, savvy, and non trusting of strangers no matter how nice they appear to be. Anybody who ignorantly keeps money in a dive bag under the bus deserves to have it taken by thieves. I guess they sized you up as gullible prey.
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written by mickey, Tue 17 Jun 2008 23:28:49 CDT
another thing besides a money belt is the waiscoats that motoebike taxi drivers wear. they have plenty of pockets and everything is kept close to the body.
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written by Owl, Wed 18 Jun 2008 01:09:18 CDT
Does anyone really deserve to get their hard-earned money taken by thieves?
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written by john rey santos, Thu 19 Jun 2008 14:50:04 CDT
i know you deserved this things,
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written by Chris S, Tue 09 Sep 2008 19:03:33 CDT
I sympathise greatly with anyone who has money stolen from them whilst travelling but rest assured it happens in every country in the world and the police are no more helpful as there is virtualy nothing they can do.
Do not have valuables out of your sight is thebest advice I can offer.
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written by MIKEY, Thu 02 Oct 2008 00:03:49 CDT
thai logic would say its your fault ( as in most cases)

if you had not been in thailand, it would not have happened
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written by Lee, Thu 02 Jul 2009 01:02:23 CDT
You think your luggage is safe in the hold of a bus, they put a little ticket on it which must match your receipt..

But what you don't know that there is someone in the luggage hold during that entire journey going through the bags..

Another alternative, maybe a little far fetched is that some other passenger puts a bag in the hold with a young boy inside..

This is Thailand
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written by undercovercop, Sun 05 Jul 2009 09:40:00 CDT
lesson learned , pretty expansive though.
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written by Watt, Sun 13 Sep 2009 01:17:15 CDT
Actually, there's not much they can do, in this case?! What do you expect? To truck down all the other passengers and ask them? Imagine this:
- Did you steal his money?
- No.
- Whose money are these, then? (your money, supposing they're found)
- Mine.
- Aha... OK, you're not the thief. Next!
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written by karen, Thu 13 Jan 2011 14:18:53 CST
just returned from thailand. trip of my life. last day while getting off a bus from phuket to bangkok, i discovered my one smale luggage gone. the driver said he gave it to someone he thought i was with. all i did was walk up after some western traveler from the same agency pick up spot and the drivers said they thought i was with him. even though we didnt sit near each other. who knows if that is even true.

they compensated me 500 bhts and the thai security asked me why i would speak to someone along the road if i was not with them (hence placing the blaame on me)


didnt have any money in there or electronics, kept those things on my personal bag. but my clothes and cosmetics were worth $800 easily. (dont write that i shouldnt wear nice clothes in thailand.) im not a backpacker, i was traveling for a month and tourists have a right to dress well if they want.

since there is no way to avoid this on buses, (they dont give you a claim ticket) - i will only travel by plane or train in thailand, unless they let me keep my all luggage with me.
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written by mak, Thu 13 Jan 2011 14:22:00 CST
Anyone that hooks up with an economically desparate bar girl in a third world country deserves to get robbed. Pathethic sicko losers.

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