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Tuktuk Scam in Chiang Mai
Friday, 11 May 2007

Tuktuk scams happen in Chiang Mai, though not as widespread as in Bangkok. I have been approached several times by tuktuk drivers, especially when walking in the night market or Thapae gate area umbrelladuring the day. What the driver offers is a visit to a small local market with craftsmen, outside the city centre. A few years ago, I had an afternoon to kill, and as the driver said he would take me for free, and also throw in a visit to nice temple further away the centre, I agreed to go, suspicious about the free ride, but not really knowing what sort of trick to expect. 

The "local market" turned out to be the local crafts workshops and showrooms just outside the Ringroad, on the road to Sankhamphaeng. The small villages around Chiang Mai are famous for various traditional crafts like saa-paper umbrella making, woodcarving, lacquerware, and there are authentic experiences to be found, but not necessarily if you go for a tuktuk ride. We ended up visiting five or six workshop&shop complexes, including a silk factory, a lacquerware factory, a silver and jewellery workshop, and a Persian carpet factory - though interesting and absolutely amazing, I didn't really understand why I should buy a Persian rug on a visit to Thailand.

These places are actually nice to visit if you are interested in seeing how these things are made, as there is usually a guided tour, the procedures are shown, at one place there was an interesting video about gem mining in Myanmar, staff is nice, I don't remember being pressured to buy, and as far as I saw and were able to compare, the prices were not outrageous. It was eventually an interesting way to spend about two hours. But, obviously, if you really think you are going to see a nice traditional market, the air-conditioned posh shops won't necessarily please you, so, it's a genuine scam. In the end, I didn't buy anything, the tuktuk driver didn't make me pay, and he actually did take me to the temple as well and we had a nice chat. Not a horrible experience on the whole, not at all. Maybe I was lucky. 

I have been approached recently, of course only when dressed quite neatly (not as a rundown backpacker, but not visibly an expat working here),  so the scam still seems to be up and running.

I hope others reading this can avoid having a disappointing ride, especially if staying on a tight schedule. 

 

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written by James, Sat 12 May 2007 23:25:58 CDT
It is not really just tuk tuks doing this. If you join just about any tour in Chiang Mai they will take you to these factories. In some ways it is quite interesting to see how these things are made. Like the umbrella painting. The tour of the factory always finishes by going through the showroom. I don't really mind these as long as there aren't too many and that it is advertised on the tour itinerary.
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written by Betti, Mon 14 May 2007 19:16:33 CDT
I have joined one-day tours several times now with family and visitors, and the tour always followed the itinerary we heard in advance. in my experience, no pop-in visits to factories and showrooms, unless it is explicitly said so beforehand.
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written by Ron, Thu 17 May 2007 18:28:09 CDT
This is not really a scam to me. It is just a hard working tuktuk driver trying to earn some money. He took you where he said, also to the wat, and didn't ask for money. Sure he would have made some if you bought anything, but so what, he was taking a risk, which in your case didn't pay off, and didn't cost you a dime. This shows me initiative and is a fine example of someone providing a service to all concerned. No, not a scam.
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written by Janice, Wed 30 May 2007 14:09:32 CDT
Actually, I agree with Ron. It is not really a scam. jus a hardworking tuk tuk driver.
It happened to me before. I just came out of the hotel, when a car driver approached me and said that he will bring me to any places I want to go for a flat cheap fee. And a tuk tuk driver in his poor English - free free..I sent you to where you want to go for a lonely lady.
I choose the take the tuk tuk, cos I can sense he was just being polite to call me a lonely lady not of taking advantage of me. I wanted to visit the museums. But in my heart, I already prepare to give him a fee. Who will work for free right?
He sent me to the National Museum, and the Art Museum. I told him I need to be alone and I will be out at a certain time. When I'm done with the Museum, and went outside earlier than the time I told him, I was suprise that he was not there. I guess he went for lunch. But because I can sense he is a sinerce driver, as he didn't tried to do anything 'funny'. I waited till the time I told him and yes, he was back. He asked where I want to go, but I told him to sent me back to my hotel.
I told him, I'll pay him 100 Baht. It is a lot consider just a half day drive. but I was willing to pay him that amount. of cos, I cannot denied that he tried to ask for more than I want to pay him. But I insisted that is the final fee I will be paying.
He accepted it.
And even after that day, when he saw me outside the hotel, he will still say hi to me, not demanding any rides from me.

I feel, the tuk tuk drivers in Chiang Mai are more honest than those In BKK. At least, I feel that they are just earning a living for their family, and not really out there to scam people. I would still willing to take a tuk tuk drive in chiangMai but not in BKK.
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written by Krit, Fri 03 Aug 2007 02:38:51 CDT
"I told him, I'll pay him 100 Baht. It is a lot consider just a half day drive."

Surely this must be a typing mistake? This is a cheap place but 100 baht is hardly very much for half a day, including gasoline. Of course it's more than "free" but even a one-way trip to the airport costs 100 baht.
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written by DG, Wed 05 Sep 2007 21:58:55 CDT
Krit-statutory pay in Thailand is between B143-B191 a DAY- depending on the area, -many, if not most, workers get paid less than this-B100 is therefore adequate for an afternoon.
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written by Andy, Thu 25 Oct 2007 14:40:19 CDT
I visit Chang Mai often, normally I pay Tuk Tuk drivers 350 Baht for a day tour of the city, it was well worth it, no pressure and it was very good tour of the city and surrounding areas including Doi Suthep.
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written by Mike, Tue 30 Oct 2007 23:25:44 CDT
My experience in Chiang Mai has been very good with the Tuk tuk drivers. When you meet an honest one (most are) he's usually parked at the same spot most of the time. Get to know his name and go back to his spot when you need a ride. If he's not there, the other drivers respect this relationship and will call him on his cell phone and tell him you are there. You can wait or he'll tell you that he can't make it so then ask the friend. You'll be treated well. Learning some Thai really helps. Khop khun karp. If you don't feel confortable with a driver, smile and just say mai karp. khop khun karp. Be courteous always, especially if you are in the city for a while. The drivers all know each other and its their business to know yours.
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written by Mary S, Thu 18 Sep 2008 11:54:27 CDT
The taxi/tuktuk drivers out side the hotel we stayed at wanted as much as 300B for a short trip. At the corner was a red bus (pick up truck with benches on the sides) He went all round picking up and dropping off but eventually took us to where we wanted to go for 40B

We always used the red buses after that. I would get the hotel receptionist to write, in Thai where we wanted to go. I would show that to the bus driver.

To come home, I had a card for the hotel which I showed to them.


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