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Drugged twice
Written by John   
Monday, 28 May 2007

Twice I've been drugged with coffee and robbed after going with a girl I didn't know. .  Cost me a lot of money. Limit on withdrawal in Thai banks is 150,000 Bhat in one day. Scopolamine was used as a truth serum. Very powerful and debilitating. Police didn't take urine samples and actually accused me. "Posers." Tourist police were nice, but the whole thing was hopeless. 

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written by Owl, Wed 12 Sep 2007 00:14:06 MDT
Apparantly this really does happen. According to a Thai friend it's been reported a number of times in the newspapers.
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written by Old Falang, Sat 15 Sep 2007 10:24:58 MDT
I was here in 1984 for the first time. My first or second day in town someone drugged me unsuccessfully. As I am quite big the dosage of the medicine may not have been enough. Much to their surprise a few minutes after having the Pepsi or whatever I left the apartment which they had lured me to in Din Daeng. I went back to my hotel and eventually dozed off for about 24 hours. The guys that did it were Phillipino and a Malay they only pretended to be Thais. There were a lot of other scammers here then from other Asian countries. I guess they have run them out now.
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written by tj in Pattaya, Tue 18 Sep 2007 09:07:36 MDT
This one is as old as the hills; Liquid rohypnol (ampoule) was always the drug of choice; many of the Patpong Katoys (Lady Boys) & Pattaya freelancers used to get you to the room , they take a shower, then while you take a shower, they put the liquid on nipples etc, you start to lick etc and wham your out cold for up to 36 hours

This still Does happen in Pattaya, not a week goes by that an Indian is found by cleaning staff unconscious ….sadly in some cases Dead
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written by Tommy, Wed 26 Sep 2007 10:32:27 MDT
This happens on Khao Sarn Road as well. be careful of the old Gulliver's on the corner of Khao Sarn Road. I've been coming to the area for eight years. I found myself lost and confused 50 meters away from the guest house I've been going to for years. The girl I was with kept telling me she wanted money until I got rid of her. I'm a big guy as well( 195 cm 17 stone), so I suppose the dosage was not enough for me.

T
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written by Thomas, Tue 02 Oct 2007 22:19:18 MDT
I was ripped off by a girl. We went to a room and the next thing i know i took a nap. I opened my eyes and my cash was gone but cel phone was there. Thank good i did not have my passport. I knew i was gonna be wilh a questionable girl and left it at hotel. But I never thought id be drugged. - When I woke up she feigned stupid. she had NO money - she did not take. lol- She did not even have the $500 Baht I gave her.
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written by Statler & Waldorf, Sun 11 Nov 2007 03:18:16 MST
Well, I thought the limit on ATM was 25 k baht. But then I don't have Thai bank account and I don't want one. What I have observed is that 99% of all single male visitors do not need to be drugged to throw money at Thai girls. They just automatically do it. One thing I do not understand: How do you possibly take someone home you don't trust?
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written by newbie, Wed 21 Nov 2007 01:51:24 MST
I am taking my first trip to Thailand--hoping to visit Bangkok and Pattaya. I have been reading up on information and am concerned about getting scammed and maybe missing some of the "best stuff." A buddy of mine and I are going together--neither of us has been there before. Any advice?
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written by gos, Wed 21 Nov 2007 17:50:09 MST
Hi newbie
Where do I start a couple of scams the girls get up to:
They tell you they owe money to mamasan and show you a bank book with hardly anything in it mamasan will confirm this because if you pay it they will split it between them
Most of them will have another bank account where tom,dick, harry ,and
george etc are sending them money to stay out of the bars and stay faithfull to them LOL and the farm needs a new cow or you can buy half the family farm thats pretty clever because we are not allowed to own land in Thailand so the money goes straight in their pockets
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written by Mark, Sun 02 Dec 2007 07:40:44 MST
Hi,
My girlfriend and I just got back from Surin Beach where we are 99% sure we were drugged unsuccessfully by an older 'supposedly Australian' couple. They had very thick English accents and were about 50-60 years old. We were taken back to their house after some drinks at a local beach bar to a house they had just moved into again 'supposedly' a beautiful 2.2Million AUD place looking over Surin and another beach (forget its name). they made us some sandwhiches and gave us a beer while they showed us around, their empty place as they had just moved in so their furniture had not arrived, only old stuff the previous tenants had left. anyway we had some sandwiches and a glass of beer, and about 40 minutes later sitting outside looking over their amazing view chatting i felt a nasty rush through my whole body and the place started spinning, i panicked and got up quickly grabbing my girlfriend saying;we need to go now! i knew the feeling was not of alcohol as we are regular drinkers, and we tried to get out of the house but they kept stalling us offering more drinks and a lift home (which was a 2 minute walk it turns out and they claimed it was too far to walk!! as we were walking home my girlfriend went from reasonably sober to quite drunk and staggering, we just got in our front door and both passed out on the bed, only to wake up 10 hours later without waking once during the night. The more we read stories like above and on websites the more we realise we were drugged. so lookout if you head to Surin beach for an old english couple!!
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written by c.smith, Thu 06 Dec 2007 04:51:32 MST
"Scopolamine"
Thanks for taking the time to write about your experience. It seems that everyone in the desperate bid for money has taken to using the highly potent and toxic drug for illect purposes in Bangkok.
50 dead white men to show for it in a 12 month period.
Our story.
My husband and I have been to Bangkok numerous times and never a problem. This last August he went for a overnight to drop of a necklace he had purchased for me that needed to be changed.
He got in late and the lobby bar was closed. He wanted a beer and went out.(MEN FIRST MISTAKE -NEVER GO OUT ALONE). The cabby took him to a neon go go bar. He repeated -look I just want a beer. So eaxi takes him to this little bar/poolhall. He sits down and has a beer. Like flies the whores came calling. My husband is a nice guy and simply stated he was there for a beer nothing else.
He had another beer and had pushed off three girls.
Next thing he says remembering was a feeling of disconnect. He said everything just got surreal. I do not know what drug would create that feeling or effect? He said the next morning he awoke in his hotel room and at first it all seemed somewhat normal except for a headache. He went about his errands and came back to the room. He said as he was walking the steps of the hotel -memories started to trickle into his mind of the night before. He said that a lot he is just unsure of. Like he does not remember gettting to the hotel by taxi. He does not remember going into the room. He does remember the girl who was with him taking a shower and fixing a drink and standing around looking out the window. He said he had sex with her. He does not understand how this possible. He stated to my family and friends as this all came to light that if he had wanted to have sex with someone other than me he would have done it in Amsterdam where it is safe and regulated . He makes no mistake that he commited adultery. But he swears to all that he was just sitting in the bar having a beer and then a while later he felt out of his body like a dissconnect from "all his reality"
. I know most people would say "oh he is making that BS up." But there is a little part of me that believes this girl got to his room and had sex with him in an effort to try and gain access to his room. He said he remembers asking her to leave four times. She acted like she did not understand English and she said she wanted to stay with him for his visit, etc. He finally put her on the outside of the door-against her will. He states that he barely made it to the bed before he "passed out".
The fear of Aids is so real for him that he flew back to the US within hours of recollecting the events-hence the battery of tests now for months. He feels that what he did was totally out of character and can not believe he did it. My question is what drug could do this? He did pass out and he did not remember anything for over 10 hours afterwards. He will be the first to say he can not believe it was him having sex with the girl- she was 10 years younger than his daughter. He is sick -I am sick and in the middle of dividing assests after 24 years of marriage.
Can anyone save this marriage? Is there a drug as he said made him dissconnect from himself? He said when he walked in the bar it was the guy I know, totally together, no desire for the stress of sex with a whore. Then he ends up here . We have now spent thousands on 6 doctor visits -tests-lawyers and tears that are priceless. Forget Christimas and by the way I would never spend another baht in Thailand for life.
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written by Ted fth., Tue 11 Dec 2007 20:30:11 MST
c.smith,
I understand this must be quite a stressful situation and nobody's really in the position what your husband has done but I believe you should try to be more supportive and try how you could find more positive ways on that incident. First and foremost you can be sure that thousands of married guys do it in Thailand unprotected and return to their wife as usual when back home, knowing the risk is actually thin, it exists but it's much lower than playing russian roulette. Your husband could have lied to you, you would have never known a thing and things would be as usual. He actually had the balls to tell you about this so this is something you should take into consideration. I don't pretend I can judge you or your husband but that's in difficult situations where a couple need to support each other, don't you think ? You know, it's alliance for best but also for worst if you remember. Get a test in 6months and another one 1 year later and then you can be reassured and start mending things up together.
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written by Danny, Thu 20 Dec 2007 04:04:10 MST
Wow interesting and scary stuff this Scopolamine. I hope everything turns out OK for you and your husband though.. At least appreciate his sincerity, nobody's perfect, life goes on anyways..
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written by Alan, Sat 29 Dec 2007 19:44:07 MST
C Smith

Yes there is a drug called Rohipnol it does just what your husband described. He was probably drugged. He probably only intended to go have a peep at one of Bangkoks girly bars which many married men do. They usually only look out of curiosity. Re tests ect you have wasted a lot of money. he only needed to test at 3 months after the act and again 3 more months after. At this point a negative is negative. And why the break and dividing of assets after 24 years of marrage. But there again you are in the USA where everyhting in life has to be run past a lawyer.

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written by Darren Connor, Mon 07 Jan 2008 05:49:06 MST
Of course there are drugs out there that can do what your husband described.Your husband would be under the influence of a very powerfull chemical that would in fact make him behave totally lunatic in a very passive way.Your husband should be treated as a victim and loved and supported.Dont let a drug kill off your relationship,drugs are evil in many ways and always cause misery.My brother is a docter and at a party once, he was drugged,he thought he was a wolf for an hour.Nobody i know has a stronger mind than my brother,thats drugs for you.Good luck
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written by sanuk, Wed 23 Jan 2008 23:58:58 MST
it could be GHB,(it have's no coller en if you put in a beer you dont taste it!) use google for more information.
the effect mach your discripting, but i dont now i they use it in thailand
i hope things are well richt now!
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written by kev, Wed 30 Jan 2008 11:35:09 MST
your in a foreign country, when out with a girl that you didn't know, what did you expect to happen? i'm sure that he's read about what thai bar girls are like. sounds to me that it was own fault for not being more careful.
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written by Mr. Trust Nobody, Tue 18 Mar 2008 11:35:56 MDT
Ive been there several times and NEVER been drugged. Im semi-friendly with everyone there but I never trust anyone. You always watch your drinks and foods of course. I took a street girl (stranger) to my room, straddled her cute face with her arms pinned to her body and gave her a nice creamy facial. I loved every minute of it.
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written by John, Tue 18 Mar 2008 13:56:20 MDT
Mr Trust Nobody, YOU ARE THE MAN :))))
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written by mr john, Sat 29 Mar 2008 05:36:26 MDT
ive been going thailand for years and never come across anything like this and dont know any one who has. if you play with fire your fingers will get burnt.
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written by Ian, Sat 29 Mar 2008 07:52:08 MDT
sorry Ted but i cant believe you are saying the risk of hiv is 'thin', the risk is 'thin' if you use a condom,
but having unprotected vaginal or anal sex in thailand is more than risky!! Not to mention the risk of the rest of the std's. Dont risk years of good times to come, cover up for gods sake!!
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written by Ian, Sat 29 Mar 2008 07:56:31 MDT
Re the general piece, perhaps the best strategy is not to take freelancers, unless you have become 'friends' or familiar with them over the passage of time. Take your ladies from the regular and well known gogos and bars, get them to show their identitiy to the hotel. When in your room put all your money, camera, phone etc in your safe (or the hotel safe) before you get down to the action.
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written by S, Sat 29 Mar 2008 14:45:25 MDT
Well, considering the consequences this drugged man has after telling relatives about his experience, he should have hidden the whole affair and check for AIDS discreetly. There is about 1/10 probability of getting infected thru having unprotected vaginal sex with an infected girl. Besides, drugged people do have 100% probability to engage in sex with a stranger, including those who would never do so being totally sober (though effects depend on the drug used). The poor guy acted honestly and expected understanding and support from his wife. She initiated a divorce instead. Sometimes when I see Americans I feel nothing but pity for them.

Look woman, do you think in case even if your man willingly had sex with another woman once, it warrants a divorce? Distorted USA-logic. Did he start living with some new girl? Did he abandon family? The man didn't even hide anything from you being very honest. Look, you probably are not very smart, sorry to say. Your husband behaved perfectly in the circumstances. You should apologize for your stupid emotional behavior and reunite.

P.S. Thai bar girls, are they becoming crazy? It seems the girl tried to arrange a 'vacation GFE' job by putting some drug into the drink.
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written by Ben, Sun 30 Mar 2008 11:33:25 MDT
To the US wife, I think you should reconsider your divorce. Your husband is a VICTIM and needed your support, yet you feel you're the one that should be the victim in this case.

Look at it from a different viewpoint. If you're a victim of rape, how would you feel if your husband divorces your because you're not "faithful" to him?? Seriously, this is really screwed up.

Furthermore, I can't believe that after 24 years of marriage, you still intend to go through a divorce. If he had wanted to cheat on you, he would have cheated in those 24 years. In fact, he can even choose not to tell you of the incident to keep his marriage "safe".

However, he chose to do the right thing by telling you the truth. And what happens? You screwed him over. Twice. In the ass. Instead of moral support and understanding, you chose the easy way out and leave him for dead.

Do reconsider your actions and in marriage, it is for better or for worse. I have seen many couples go through hell and back (far worse than what you're experiencing) yet they are still together. I implore you to be more understanding towards your husband and this incident. There are many other solutions apart from divorce.
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written by Toro76er, Mon 31 Mar 2008 10:20:00 MDT
if u suspect the Thai girlies put somthing in your drink, tip it out when there not looking and put a tab ofacid in THEIR drink! fun all night! for freeee!
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written by anon, Mon 12 May 2008 06:04:49 MDT
wow, you are all asking C.Smith to be more understanding of her husband yet you take no time to be understanding of her! Heartless and appalling that some of you are so bigotted to suggest it's because she's American! Talk about a generisation.

C. Smith, I empathise with you - what a shocking, sad and scary position to be in. You have evey right to be angry and heartbroken. But at the end of the day, these guys are right - try to save you marriage. Your husband may have been stupid but he needs your love and support and doesn't deserve all this.

Good luck my friend.
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written by Ausso, Fri 04 Jul 2008 01:01:47 MDT
listen lady, its understandable that you are upset about what your husband did, but maybe before deciding to completely cut the guy out of your life you could give him some support. in your post you talk about how much of a great guy he is and all that shit, yet you seem to be able to look right past that because you feel like the victim. i can assure you that if he knew what he was doing he wouldnt be telling you about it, especially if he knew how you would react. although using drugs as an excuse for cheating on someone is poor form, do you really think he would admit it to you just to get a sympathy vote? i sure dont. give the guy a break. how can you end 24 years of marriage over something that you arent even sure about? i cant even begin to feel sympathy for you, if you are willing to end something that large it really says alot about YOUR character, not his.
get your pathetic act together and be the person that your husband fell in love with, and loved for 24 years. this isnt grade school lady, its 24 years of commitment, and you are getting rid of it. try to put yourself in his shoes, im sure that he has put himself in yours, but by the sounds of it they wouldnt be very big shoes to fill.

give him a chance, i gurantee if you dont you will be miserable for the rest of your life that you let that one get away.

cheers.

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