Apparantly this really does happen. According to a Thai friend it's been reported a number of times in the newspapers.

I was here in 1984 for the first time. My first or second day in town someone drugged me unsuccessfully. As I am quite big the dosage of the medicine may not have been enough. Much to their surprise a few minutes after having the Pepsi or whatever I left the apartment which they had lured me to in Din Daeng. I went back to my hotel and eventually dozed off for about 24 hours. The guys that did it were Phillipino and a Malay they only pretended to be Thais. There were a lot of other scammers here then from other Asian countries. I guess they have run them out now.

This one is as old as the hills; Liquid rohypnol (ampoule) was always the drug of choice; many of the Patpong Katoys (Lady Boys) & Pattaya freelancers used to get you to the room , they take a shower, then while you take a shower, they put the liquid on nipples etc, you start to lick etc and wham your out cold for up to 36 hours

This still Does happen in Pattaya, not a week goes by that an Indian is found by cleaning staff unconscious ….sadly in some cases Dead

This happens on Khao Sarn Road as well. be careful of the old Gulliver's on the corner of Khao Sarn Road. I've been coming to the area for eight years. I found myself lost and confused 50 meters away from the guest house I've been going to for years. The girl I was with kept telling me she wanted money until I got rid of her. I'm a big guy as well( 195 cm 17 stone), so I suppose the dosage was not enough for me.

T

I was ripped off by a girl. We went to a room and the next thing i know i took a nap. I opened my eyes and my cash was gone but cel phone was there. Thank good i did not have my passport. I knew i was gonna be wilh a questionable girl and left it at hotel. But I never thought id be drugged. - When I woke up she feigned stupid. she had NO money - she did not take. lol- She did not even have the $500 Baht I gave her.

Well, I thought the limit on ATM was 25 k baht. But then I don't have Thai bank account and I don't want one. What I have observed is that 99% of all single male visitors do not need to be drugged to throw money at Thai girls. They just automatically do it. One thing I do not understand: How do you possibly take someone home you don't trust?

I am taking my first trip to Thailand--hoping to visit Bangkok and Pattaya. I have been reading up on information and am concerned about getting scammed and maybe missing some of the "best stuff." A buddy of mine and I are going together--neither of us has been there before. Any advice?

Hi newbie
Where do I start a couple of scams the girls get up to:
They tell you they owe money to mamasan and show you a bank book with hardly anything in it mamasan will confirm this because if you pay it they will split it between them
Most of them will have another bank account where tom,dick, harry ,and
george etc are sending them money to stay out of the bars and stay faithfull to them LOL and the farm needs a new cow or you can buy half the family farm thats pretty clever because we are not allowed to own land in Thailand so the money goes straight in their pockets

Hi,
My girlfriend and I just got back from Surin Beach where we are 99% sure we were drugged unsuccessfully by an older 'supposedly Australian' couple. They had very thick English accents and were about 50-60 years old. We were taken back to their house after some drinks at a local beach bar to a house they had just moved into again 'supposedly' a beautiful 2.2Million AUD place looking over Surin and another beach (forget its name). they made us some sandwhiches and gave us a beer while they showed us around, their empty place as they had just moved in so their furniture had not arrived, only old stuff the previous tenants had left. anyway we had some sandwiches and a glass of beer, and about 40 minutes later sitting outside looking over their amazing view chatting i felt a nasty rush through my whole body and the place started spinning, i panicked and got up quickly grabbing my girlfriend saying;we need to go now! i knew the feeling was not of alcohol as we are regular drinkers, and we tried to get out of the house but they kept stalling us offering more drinks and a lift home (which was a 2 minute walk it turns out and they claimed it was too far to walk!! as we were walking home my girlfriend went from reasonably sober to quite drunk and staggering, we just got in our front door and both passed out on the bed, only to wake up 10 hours later without waking once during the night. The more we read stories like above and on websites the more we realise we were drugged. so lookout if you head to Surin beach for an old english couple!!

"Scopolamine"
Thanks for taking the time to write about your experience. It seems that everyone in the desperate bid for money has taken to using the highly potent and toxic drug for illect purposes in Bangkok.
50 dead white men to show for it in a 12 month period.
Our story.
My husband and I have been to Bangkok numerous times and never a problem. This last August he went for a overnight to drop of a necklace he had purchased for me that needed to be changed.
He got in late and the lobby bar was closed. He wanted a beer and went out.(MEN FIRST MISTAKE -NEVER GO OUT ALONE). The cabby took him to a neon go go bar. He repeated -look I just want a beer. So eaxi takes him to this little bar/poolhall. He sits down and has a beer. Like flies the whores came calling. My husband is a nice guy and simply stated he was there for a beer nothing else.
He had another beer and had pushed off three girls.
Next thing he says remembering was a feeling of disconnect. He said everything just got surreal. I do not know what drug would create that feeling or effect? He said the next morning he awoke in his hotel room and at first it all seemed somewhat normal except for a headache. He went about his errands and came back to the room. He said as he was walking the steps of the hotel -memories started to trickle into his mind of the night before. He said that a lot he is just unsure of. Like he does not remember gettting to the hotel by taxi. He does not remember going into the room. He does remember the girl who was with him taking a shower and fixing a drink and standing around looking out the window. He said he had sex with her. He does not understand how this possible. He stated to my family and friends as this all came to light that if he had wanted to have sex with someone other than me he would have done it in Amsterdam where it is safe and regulated . He makes no mistake that he commited adultery. But he swears to all that he was just sitting in the bar having a beer and then a while later he felt out of his body like a dissconnect from "all his reality"
. I know most people would say "oh he is making that BS up." But there is a little part of me that believes this girl got to his room and had sex with him in an effort to try and gain access to his room. He said he remembers asking her to leave four times. She acted like she did not understand English and she said she wanted to stay with him for his visit, etc. He finally put her on the outside of the door-against her will. He states that he barely made it to the bed before he "passed out".
The fear of Aids is so real for him that he flew back to the US within hours of recollecting the events-hence the battery of tests now for months. He feels that what he did was totally out of character and can not believe he did it. My question is what drug could do this? He did pass out and he did not remember anything for over 10 hours afterwards. He will be the first to say he can not believe it was him having sex with the girl- she was 10 years younger than his daughter. He is sick -I am sick and in the middle of dividing assests after 24 years of marriage.
Can anyone save this marriage? Is there a drug as he said made him dissconnect from himself? He said when he walked in the bar it was the guy I know, totally together, no desire for the stress of sex with a whore. Then he ends up here . We have now spent thousands on 6 doctor visits -tests-lawyers and tears that are priceless. Forget Christimas and by the way I would never spend another baht in Thailand for life.

c.smith,
I understand this must be quite a stressful situation and nobody's really in the position what your husband has done but I believe you should try to be more supportive and try how you could find more positive ways on that incident. First and foremost you can be sure that thousands of married guys do it in Thailand unprotected and return to their wife as usual when back home, knowing the risk is actually thin, it exists but it's much lower than playing russian roulette. Your husband could have lied to you, you would have never known a thing and things would be as usual. He actually had the balls to tell you about this so this is something you should take into consideration. I don't pretend I can judge you or your husband but that's in difficult situations where a couple need to support each other, don't you think ? You know, it's alliance for best but also for worst if you remember. Get a test in 6months and another one 1 year later and then you can be reassured and start mending things up together.

Wow interesting and scary stuff this Scopolamine. I hope everything turns out OK for you and your husband though.. At least appreciate his sincerity, nobody's perfect, life goes on anyways..

C Smith

Yes there is a drug called Rohipnol it does just what your husband described. He was probably drugged. He probably only intended to go have a peep at one of Bangkoks girly bars which many married men do. They usually only look out of curiosity. Re tests ect you have wasted a lot of money. he only needed to test at 3 months after the act and again 3 more months after. At this point a negative is negative. And why the break and dividing of assets after 24 years of marrage. But there again you are in the USA where everyhting in life has to be run past a lawyer.

Of course there are drugs out there that can do what your husband described.Your husband would be under the influence of a very powerfull chemical that would in fact make him behave totally lunatic in a very passive way.Your husband should be treated as a victim and loved and supported.Dont let a drug kill off your relationship,drugs are evil in many ways and always cause misery.My brother is a docter and at a party once, he was drugged,he thought he was a wolf for an hour.Nobody i know has a stronger mind than my brother,thats drugs for you.Good luck

it could be GHB,(it have's no coller en if you put in a beer you dont taste it!) use google for more information.
the effect mach your discripting, but i dont now i they use it in thailand
i hope things are well richt now!

your in a foreign country, when out with a girl that you didn't know, what did you expect to happen? i'm sure that he's read about what thai bar girls are like. sounds to me that it was own fault for not being more careful.

Ckeck out Jakarta, wat a great city...more save, more fun, more cheap..lovely people.

ive been going thailand for years and never come across anything like this and dont know any one who has. if you play with fire your fingers will get burnt.

sorry Ted but i cant believe you are saying the risk of hiv is 'thin', the risk is 'thin' if you use a condom,
but having unprotected vaginal or anal sex in thailand is more than risky!! Not to mention the risk of the rest of the std's. Dont risk years of good times to come, cover up for gods sake!!

Re the general piece, perhaps the best strategy is not to take freelancers, unless you have become 'friends' or familiar with them over the passage of time. Take your ladies from the regular and well known gogos and bars, get them to show their identitiy to the hotel. When in your room put all your money, camera, phone etc in your safe (or the hotel safe) before you get down to the action.

Well, considering the consequences this drugged man has after telling relatives about his experience, he should have hidden the whole affair and check for AIDS discreetly. There is about 1/10 probability of getting infected thru having unprotected vaginal sex with an infected girl. Besides, drugged people do have 100% probability to engage in sex with a stranger, including those who would never do so being totally sober (though effects depend on the drug used). The poor guy acted honestly and expected understanding and support from his wife. She initiated a divorce instead. Sometimes when I see Americans I feel nothing but pity for them.

Look woman, do you think in case even if your man willingly had sex with another woman once, it warrants a divorce? Distorted USA-logic. Did he start living with some new girl? Did he abandon family? The man didn't even hide anything from you being very honest. Look, you probably are not very smart, sorry to say. Your husband behaved perfectly in the circumstances. You should apologize for your stupid emotional behavior and reunite.

P.S. Thai bar girls, are they becoming crazy? It seems the girl tried to arrange a 'vacation GFE' job by putting some drug into the drink.

To the US wife, I think you should reconsider your divorce. Your husband is a VICTIM and needed your support, yet you feel you're the one that should be the victim in this case.

Look at it from a different viewpoint. If you're a victim of rape, how would you feel if your husband divorces your because you're not "faithful" to him?? Seriously, this is really screwed up.

Furthermore, I can't believe that after 24 years of marriage, you still intend to go through a divorce. If he had wanted to cheat on you, he would have cheated in those 24 years. In fact, he can even choose not to tell you of the incident to keep his marriage "safe".

However, he chose to do the right thing by telling you the truth. And what happens? You screwed him over. Twice. In the ass. Instead of moral support and understanding, you chose the easy way out and leave him for dead.

Do reconsider your actions and in marriage, it is for better or for worse. I have seen many couples go through hell and back (far worse than what you're experiencing) yet they are still together. I implore you to be more understanding towards your husband and this incident. There are many other solutions apart from divorce.

wow, you are all asking C.Smith to be more understanding of her husband yet you take no time to be understanding of her! Heartless and appalling that some of you are so bigotted to suggest it's because she's American! Talk about a generisation.

C. Smith, I empathise with you - what a shocking, sad and scary position to be in. You have evey right to be angry and heartbroken. But at the end of the day, these guys are right - try to save you marriage. Your husband may have been stupid but he needs your love and support and doesn't deserve all this.

Good luck my friend.

listen lady, its understandable that you are upset about what your husband did, but maybe before deciding to completely cut the guy out of your life you could give him some support. in your post you talk about how much of a great guy he is and all that shit, yet you seem to be able to look right past that because you feel like the victim. i can assure you that if he knew what he was doing he wouldnt be telling you about it, especially if he knew how you would react. although using drugs as an excuse for cheating on someone is poor form, do you really think he would admit it to you just to get a sympathy vote? i sure dont. give the guy a break. how can you end 24 years of marriage over something that you arent even sure about? i cant even begin to feel sympathy for you, if you are willing to end something that large it really says alot about YOUR character, not his.
get your pathetic act together and be the person that your husband fell in love with, and loved for 24 years. this isnt grade school lady, its 24 years of commitment, and you are getting rid of it. try to put yourself in his shoes, im sure that he has put himself in yours, but by the sounds of it they wouldnt be very big shoes to fill.

give him a chance, i gurantee if you dont you will be miserable for the rest of your life that you let that one get away.

cheers.

pls, believe r husband. i have been to thailand. and yes they are many girls out there. but dont u think if he actually wanted to cheat he will not tell u.
even if he intended to cheat partially affected by the drug. still he is an honest guy, who told u bcoz he cres about u and loves u, worring about the std he might or might not have contacted, and the risks of transfering to u.
pls wake up. dont loose an honest guy .
if i was in his shoes i will tell my girl friend, yes. but after this story of your. ill lie from now to any girl
u people dont want the truth.

I was drugged while at a bar in Koh Samui. I was with some tourist friends who decided to call it a night. I stayed on to have a couple of extra drinks. I was sitting by myself at the corner of a bar. I must have slumped over on the bar, probably just looked like I had had too much to drink. I was quite awake, my mind active but my body just would not move. I thought at the time I was drunk, but I had been drugged. I suddenly felt these arms come from behind and start to hug me. This went on for a while, I can't recall much of that. I then started to fell hands were seriously starting to frisk all my pockets, unbutton my shirt. I had quite a bit of money on me, and credit cards. Luckily I had one of those travellor belts with all the cash and credit cards under my jeans, just below my belt. They would have had to have taken off my pants to get at the money. I sort of started realising what was happening and grasped the hand which was now on my belt buckle. I squeezed the fingers hard and twisted them back - I am strong and it must have hurt that little thai hand - I let go and it stopped. I then felt someone tug at my shoulders, some people (foreigners) were asking if I was okay. They took me back to my hotel and I got to keep my money !

this is a common scam if you play with fire your going to get burnt like a friend of mine was in a bar and then suddenly felt weird and couldn't do anything about it.. He woke up back at the hotel to find a ladyboy on top of him barking like a dog whilst creaming in his face and a thai lady with a strap on screwing the ladyboy making a sound like a cat....
He managed to wriggle free and ran into the reception naked and screaming by the time he had explained to the receptionist the ladyboy and thai girl came flying through the reception fully dressed and carrying a video camera.
He reported it to the police but they couldn't do anything they said they would have to wait for the film to be released
He returned to the UK but has never seen the film he acted in

Just read your comment bobby and a similar thing happened to me over two years ago at an infamous bar known to many. I have chosen not to use my real name as I didn't report this to the police for various reasons that I don't want to go into.

I was at the bar and had a couple of beers girls kept coming up to me and I even bought them a few drinks. Next thing I felt strange and went to go to the bathroom and my legs gave way, I couldn't walk but I didn't feel drunk.
Some people helped gain stability and this where it goes all hazy I woke up back at the guest house but couldn't move. It's as if I was paralysed I was aware of two people in the room a fairly small girl and a tall butch lady boy that looked all out of place.
The strangest thing was that the two bastards had monkey masks on, like the one's children wear at a fancy dress party or at Halloween.
I couldn't move and this pair of sick idiots made monkey sounds when they saw I was awake but unable to move the called me farang-a-tang and was laughing.
I can't remember anything else I awoke about 15 hours later with banana skins near the bed.

Be warned

i was drugged by girl at sukimtive road in crown hotel .i was unconcious for abt 38 hours .she ripped off abt 80000 bath .

Only buy bottels of beer, and make them open it in front of you. Always keep an eye on it, and you dont get into trouble. I'm a globetrotter, and i've visited countrys all over the world. This is my nr 1 rule. Thailand is not the only country practising this. Try out the western part of Africa, and you are really on your toes. Be careful, and enjoy.

Many years ago,and still should have known better,i was drugged and robbed by a girl i got drinking with on

Many years ago,and still should have known better,i was drugged and robbed by a girl i got drinking with on Khao San Rd late one night.I remember everything about it.I woke up early the following afternoon alone in the short time room we had gone to.As old fashioned as it sounds these days most of the money i had on me at the time was in travellers cheques and she took about £1000 worth and left me with about B200 in cash,which was nice of her.Thankfully i did'nt have my passport on me at the time and mobile phones were just about non existant then.Although it was'nt like in the tv adverts at the time,where some guy gets his replacement cheques presented to him on a silver tray by a uniformed flunkey on a beach,i did get a refund on my stolen cheques after a tough interrogation by the travellers cheque company i bought them from.To this day i still use travellers cheques but the lesson i learned was,when going out for the evening,just take enough cash with you for that night and leave the rest somewhere safe.You never know whats going to happen but then thats what makes Bangkok so much fun.

this has to be the funniest thread I have read in a long time.

'it wasnt me honey, it was the drugs that made me take that naughty young girl back to my room"

gotta remember that one....lol

Thailand drugs usually just are higher doses of tranquilizers lke roinold, diecepan, triencepan, arapril, tranquimazin, etc. It is easy to get hold off in any farmacy or boots, the doses is with 1 to 2 miligram can be enough not to remember anything for the next ten hours even if you keep awake... popular for people with anxiety or drug addics... you dont really taste anything as it usually is when your are already a bit drunk
GHB its pretty easy to cook by your self having the ingridients but in thailand its not very popular, and it does taste! so in a beer or cocktail it would not tasty any good, another thing is that for GHB the dosis to kick you out for a while is enough to taste the washing liquid it is cooked from.
What do they put in the nipples? no idea but this week end came back with a girl from spicy being pretty drunk and her nipples tasted pretty sweet... too sweet! haha, anyway i just liked them only once has i got a bit paranoid with this...
Just be careful in thailand, have an eye open always, specialy when you go on the 14hours bus drives across the country,get to the destination a 7 in the morning and you are pretty vulnerable... Visa, gust house... dont believe anything and use common sence.... seen in suratani, krabi,, Visa geting to Laos for example is another rip off taking you to a shop to get your visa done paying nearly twise than at the border... plus i saw a russian guy runing after a tuk tuk driver that tok is lagguge.....

Anyway after living in bangok (and working in kao san area over a year you start to see the scams everywere, just go with a it of sence. normaly thai people are shy so supect anything from people that come up to you, if the taxi or the tuk tuk is fre or 20 baht your getting ripped off some other way, taylors or gems, always get a moving taxi and go by the meter, nothing else if you dont know the actual price... normaly to cross it normaly cost 100B 140B max, unles you going to some strange place in ourside of the city or airport.....

Anyway could keep going on for hours...other then that thailand is very nice country to travel around.

You say easy to get in any farmacy? I remember trying to buy some sleeping pills for on the airplane. Went to nearly 20 farmacies in Bangkok. They all refused to sell without prescription. Only one tried to sell me antidepressiva. Only once when I just asked in Phuket in a farmacy below a supermarket they said I could buy diazepam. But it was just to try I didnt buy.

I have been in and out of Thailand for the past 20 odd years and even hav a small abode in the north of Thailand. Looking through the threads in here I do understand peoples pain. I have witnessed many a scam over the years, and of course if we are not acclimatised to it in our own countries (dont forget we have our own personal scammers eg. the nigerians demanding money on the internet/thro paypa/western union etc our own taxi drivers occasionally will rip you off where they see fit !) it does come as a shock. I have taught my sons to place their passports, money belt etc in their carry on luggage and lock it with a good lock before placing it in the scanning machines in the airports, at least nothing is lying loose in those trays and you can keep a good eye on it whilst your being frisked/or not thro the body scanner. On over night trains I have always placed my luggage next to me locked in my sleeping compartment(some only have curtains!) and used it as a pillow, hence soft luggage is advisable lol.
To drink at girly bars is attracting trouble, your going to be ripped off (general rule, even if it means doubling the cost of the drink or so)., so leave your possessions in a small lockable wallet in your hotel safe. Never to accept food or drink from a stranger in any situation, better to stay hungrey or thirsty until you reach your destination!. On over night buses, there is a problem with the luggage on many occasions and to be honest although I found it extremely inconvenient, at all stops I got out as well to check no one was going off with my luggage, I have had a few friends arrive at their destination without even a toothbrush left for them. As a woman I have been subjected to being grossly over charged on drinks in bars and initially my reaction was to create a scene, this leaves you without face and you actually never win, so I have always encouraged my lads if this happens, pay up and leave quickly, dont argue, you will never be on the winning side, your life has too much value.
In the north of Thailand, I have been offer hash by friendly innocent looking people but do remember that the native people do obtain a reward for dobbing you in, so respect the law of the land, because as a prison visitor in Bangkok it isnt a nice place to spend the next 25/30 yrs of your life. Seeing broken hearted family and friends visit their loved ones is enough to make your heart bleed and there are no exceptions!.
As it has been said in here beware of Thais coming up and talking to you in public, they are a shy race, always be polite and kind, but remain firm, this will gain their respect. Keep an eye on your credit card never let it out of your sight, just like back home, cards can be clonned!
The above is just about keeping safe whether your in Thailand, London, its unfortunately part of life.
The Thai people are extremely kind and friendly, hospitable and ready to help, unfortunately where there are tourists, there are tricksters, scammers, thieves (which also includes foreigners overseas) and it is a great country with a wonderful culture and one of life's not to be missed experiences.
Many of our western men go in search of happiness to these parts without knowing anything about the culture or traditions (and some western men are extremely unsavoury as well!). They would do well to familiarise themselves with the country before embarking on a relationship with the women, remember the embassies have heard all the sob stories before.!
Enjoy!

It doesn't just happen to guys and dodgy thai birds! I was having a drink in a bar(not a girlie bar) near where i had lived for 4 months in Koh Samui and got chatting to some locals who seemed friendly enough. I paid my bill and stood up to go and started feeling a little odd. One of the locals asked if i was ok and offered to walk me back. I declined politely and walked back as was only 2 minutes away. At this point i felt very strange and sleepy. I got into my house and locked the door and collapsed on the bed. I was fighting to stay conscious. At that point i had the feeling someone was in my room other than me! I opened my eyes to see the 'kindly' thai at the bar who had offered to walk me home removing his trousers. He didn't quite bank on what happened next - he came over to me and got on the bed (thinking i was out cold) and received a very hard kick in the nads. I then let rip with all the energy i had screaming 'fire' at the top of my voice (i had always been told that this is the cry to make as people will quickly react if they believe they might be in danger) The lights went on in every room in the block and the thai F***ker was last seen clutching his nether regions and running for his life. My neighbours checked the room and found the back window was wide open where he must have crawled through. They locked the door, gave me water and i said i was ok. I tripple locked the door and checked every window in my drugged haze then passed out fully clothed for 28 hours.
There was no point in going to the police as no forensic evidence - thank god- and I don't associate with any thai people now on the island and stick to my own kind which is sad as there are some wonderful thai people out there i am sure.

My wife was drugged right infront of me without us knowing untill she passed out. she lost her vision first and was telling me she could not see and i couldnt undertsand why she then stood up and collapsed. Mind you this was on a tour Boat to Phi Phi Island. I was very Wary of all the people on the boat and was trying to figure out who had done it..... Thnkyou to the Italian Couple that was the only people to get up and help me carry my wife as i was trying to hold her up from hitting the floor. everyone else just watched..... Only thing we were drinking were water Bottles provided By the Tour Guide,,,,, very Sus,,,indeed,.

Alot of the boat / jetski etc etc operators take on extra staff during the high season by word of mouth or association links, well in Krabi and Phuket anyway. The informal way theyre recruited without application form or in depth checks mean that some opportunistic criminals get these jobs as a way in to meeting tourists whom they hope to rob or scam.

The organised crime element to some of these companies and the way theyre "connected" means that they are often the ones recommended / touted to tourists because of bribes and rake offs to influential people to get licenses and permits.

This shameful example of drugging could be (assuming its not a one off incident) just one more example of organised crime messing things up for local Thais and Foreign guests alike, the true crime is the way these criminals are allowed to operate seemingly unchecked for years.

Its wrong to say that only gullible people get scammed, the opportunistic criminal element will pick on anyone whom they think will be a source of income.

I personally was offered a bottle of water by a taxi driver on the way back to my apartment in Bangkok from Pattaya and because the bottle was sealed I accepted the offer and drank the water though not all of it. I spent the remainder of the day in bed with a fever like dizziness. Very hard to tell / prove if I had drank all of the water would I have passed out to be robbed?

I was not ill before I had drunk the bottled water and just seems a little odd that this happened and so hard to detect or lay blame because how could I prove that it was anything other than a good taxi driver offering his customer a drink? Similar instance to the lady on the boat to Koh Phi Phi.

Submissions like the previous one give a great country and its largely great people a very bad name because of a minority of criminals, shame.

"Someone" ........ every guy or gal to come to that ,is entitled to sleep with whoever, no one deserves to be drugged/.robbed etc and I take on board your poor communication skills, therefore your forgiven and ignored!....
Ao Nang....If I were in Australia or Europe, America etc and accepted water/coke and woke up 28 hrs later having been drugged then I would be concerned, and it beggers belief that one has to be cagey about accepting a cool drink from the country you are visiting/and or living in.... so now the "thermos flask" industry is doing well and I can sleep when I choose too and awaken to find my goods in tact!!..... is something hitting you below the belt, come on Ao Nang is business that bad for you these days!!! or didnt you get the dosage right????

I wasnt concerned about the water before. On hindsight given the nature of the poster who was drugged on the boat trip I do think something cou;d have been "up". This was being shared on the forum.

Its a shame but people do have to be increasingly careful when travelling, drugging happens on night trains in continental europe as much as it does in Thailand and people do have to be aware but often are not until its happened to them or someone they know.

I enjoy Thailand and have done for years but there are a few idiots who spoil things.

Oh, business is fine for me and I think that the drug scene and everything to do with it is bad and should be stamped out. My opinion, true but I have the opinion that recreational and illicit drugs mean bad news, especially in Thailand.

Well I guess I wont be going to thailand after reading this bs. Sounds like to much of a hastle and doesn't sound like the thais i know either. But I have heard this and recently from many thais that come to us, about the drugging. I think I'll just go to Camobdia or Philipines.

Most Thai people are great, no one should turn their back on Thailand.

Its a small proportion of criminals that brings the place down, but criminals are in every country. This site helps to inform people about the scams so reducing their occurrance amongst those pre-informed.

Travel is great to Thailand as long as you are informed what can go wrong and avoid the pitfalls.

Please dont write it off, The country is just as interesting as Cambodia and The Philippines and most of the people are great. Just the criminals drag the country down as they would in other countries.

I found this very helpfull. It's nice to have a good dosage of horror stories to make you aware of the things to be mindfull of. Thanks

Thats how this forum should be Taken ......

We still go to Thailand but just Be Aware and Be Cautious about things...

Things that sound tooooooo good to be True 99% of the time are.

So Enjoy Your Holidays in Thailand but just think Twice dont get caught up in the moment.

these Forums are Documented accounts from other people from around the world.so use them as a guide line dont let it scare you off from Thailand because there are Honest people There too.

Every Country Has its Scams.!!!!!

hello people, I have been to thailand on 2 occasions but always travelled with a partner, i am going to bangkok on my own in april aprt from avoiding being scammed or drugged which sounds like my local town centre on a saturday night, is there anything else i need to know about lone travelling in bangkok?

Don't trust or use a TukTuk.
Never use a taxi parked in front of your hotel.
Don't believe any Thai that talks with you.
Stay away from the resorts.
Beware of the BMA Police stalking foreigners smoking cigarettes.
Be prepared to have the Police stop your taxi and do a body search.
Don't go to Thai Boxing or Ocean World since they overcharge foreigners.
Never give money to the fake Monks or beggars. (they work for the cops)
Stay away from tourist spots.

cheers tom, so i don,t go to the tourist locations, never use a tuk tuk or taxi parked outside my hotel, and stay away from the resorts? pray tell what do i do in Bangkok?

The scammers are creative and will do just about anything.
The police are supporting them now I hear.
Good luck in Thailand.
I suppose in a few years, very few tourists will be going there.

I have been in thailand/BKK many times. My safety rules are:
- if anybody steps up to you on the street ignore them, they are after your money.
- If somebody bumbs into you in the street (children, lady boys, bar girls etc) that is on purpose, watch your pockets because you are about to get robed.
- if you want p4p go to clubs and gogo bars. The girls work there and if they scam you, you know where to find them. If something happens complain with the owner (he/she will listen to you in a crowded bar) or go to the tourist police.
- If you take a girl into your room let her shower first and throw all your valuables in the safe when she is in the bathroom.

egor - the p4p comment, while is better insurance, it is no insurance. the girl/boy/ladyboy will disappear and no one in the bar will admit to having even seen the person in question who is not upcountry in issan spending your money on her worthless parents and in karoke joints.

lek who? no lek...lek, no.

your true valuables should have been locked down before you went out and the money in your room should cover the costs of the activities to follow and that is all. even to the point of having not enough cash on hand and having to make a trip to the saftey box - while s/he or "it" waits.

as for me, given the hiv rates that i believe present in thailand, i would not engage in sex with any thai person that i have the least suspicion in working in sex industry. i have 15 years of traveling in/out of thailand and asia to base this on.

i am suprised reading all these comments, so much negativity, didn't anyone travel before?? Why would you accepts drinks from strange people in dodgie places? I have been to thailand about 6 times before and will go back in two weeks. I travel to thailand because i like the country and the people, i am not interested in thai sex tourism and believe that if you are stupid enough to fall for these scams than you should be ripped off. bargening is part of thai culture, live with it or stay away. Dont talk about being ripped off, it is your own stupidity that takes you there. Ofourse you will pay to much for a taxi or tuk tuk ride sometimes but who cares, we are talking cents here!
Enjoy Thailand, keep thinking, read a lonely planet with basic scams and take care.

Remember once back in the 90's when me and a thirsty friend had a good 10 or so hour wait at the railway station in Punphin, en route to Malaysia. A girl that was hanging with some pretty dodgy charcters there went to buy beer for me and came back with two cold Singh, one opened, that got my paranoia going. I was drinking of it slowly while offering her sips she would decline until the point it felt strange not to accept. So she had a couple of mini-sips, and it actually made her visibly intoxicated. I downed the rest of it, and the next and kept on drinking until our 3rd class night train to Had Yai arrived.
After all, a little sleeping pill is no match for a system running on 175mg of medical grade HCL-ethylamphetamine, which works out exactly to 5 caps of Pink&White for those of you who remember those little powerplants.
But i did sleep (or at least have some extremely weird dreams) on the train.

After that I been drugged three times in Thailand and most likely gassed once in Phnom Penh. And that was a really weird fucking story. Although it shrinks conciderably compared to the katoy-strapon-camera guy. I salute you!

the last post about ethylamphetamine got me thinking. Ive heard over the counter diet pills in thailand contain psuedo-ephedrine. If u take these when someone has spiked your drink will it counter the effect enough for you to flee? I myself was drugged at the ladyboy cabarret show bar in koh samui. I found it strange that i was shouted a beer by the staff without even requesting a drink so i just nursed it. The DJ/emcee -who i thought resembled boxer anthony mundine- came up and befriended me and said he'll take me to all these other bars after the show to which i agreed. At the end there were no patrons left just me waiting for him to finish up. i had polished off half the beer and decieded to leave it but he insisted i bring it. At one point i decided to nonchalantly test him by telling him of my concerns for being drugged and made it sound as though i was on to him without a direct accusation. i vaguely remember he looked a bit sheepish. Outside i tested more by apologising for accusing him and defended my actions by claiming i have to look out for no.1
At this point i just suspected but as i walked up the street to go to the next bar the green mango, I noticed i suddenly couldn't control my limbs and had trouble walking in a straight line. while this was happening the DJ was asking am i alright. My suspicions had been confirmed. i got angry, I had to tense up my body to walk and charged off in front at a brisk pace, focusing on the crowd at the GM while this fool was asking am i alright. I made it and politely said goodbye to the DJ while thinking he was a bastard. i have no idea who was behind it as the DJ wasn't a thai let alone an asian. i kept a sample of the booze to get tested when i returned home but never did.

In drugging cases previous experience with drugs both illicit and legal is useful as you will know what to look for. i only knew cause i thought it was sus' from the start and i was on my guard being alone. At the first sign you must not submit to the feeling, get angry, tense up your body and make your conscious mind overule your body and flee while you are still in control of your faculties. Mind you beyond a certain point even this won't work.

And i wondered while an ex-pat i once shouted a round left while his beer was 3/4's full.

its the risk you take! thier can be no complaints

Never drink anything that is not opened in front of you. All the discos know this. Never trust a bargirl or ladyboy around open drinks.

If you have sex after you've been drugged (and did not consent to both sex and drugging beforehand) it's rape. Pure and simple.

I feel sorry for c.smith's husband, presuming the story is true: to be raped, then be divorced because of it.

c.smith, if you're still checking this after two years, take the story to rape counsellors in any major city. Describe the symptoms of the drugging - or have your husband do so - to experienced rape counsellors. They'll be familiar with the symptoms of 'rape drugs' used in their city, and with common reactions to rape.

They'll be able to give you an experienced opinion on whether or not your husband was raped. And I think you can determine for yourself what I would recommend you do, based on that opinion.

stay away from the wild side of life maybe you will come back alive if you avoid sex alcohol and late hours

i am going to thailand to meet a girl i have met on a dating site. we have been chatting by webcam for 2 months now and i like her. she is the same age as me, she is a dental nurse. i asked if i can get my teeth cleaned there- no probs.. but a little scepticle on getting drugged.. never been to thailand before and have heard many mixed stories.. she seems very sincere and genuine.. any advice?

I have learnt and know for a fact thai bar girls will steal from each other and do what ever it takes to get money so if they happy to do it to them selves they will be more then happy to do it to any farang, but there are many girls who work in bars do make very good girl friends i know because i had one and i wish i still had her now she did everything for me and never pushed me for money she was just happy to have what i gave her, so to anyone who is thinking about going to thailand and maybe go with thai bar girl it not all doom and gloom just make sure you are sober when you choose a girl and see if she happy to go with you next day and not the first night if she not want to do this and wants to push you into going with you first night i would advise you look to another girl make sure you are incharge not her and if she gives you all the hard luck stories first night then forget her move on then you have a good chance of not being ripped off, good luck you may need it

I have been living in South East asia and have never come across any of this. It comes down to being smart and keeping your wits about you. If you drink like a fish and flash big money then your are just begging to be a victim no matter where you go. Sadly I see so many obnoxious, idiot western men here (they look like dirty alcoholics). They are easy targets. Be smart and be discrete.

Dear C Smith, please be aware that serious tactics can also be employed such as spiked drinks using knockout or "date rape" drugs like Scopolamine, Rohypnol or Gamma Hydroxybutyrate (GHB).

Remember there are some pretty things that can happen to honest folk like us at bars in our own countries and it would be a shame if your marriage is destroyed by this event.

My husband went for a walk at the beach in Nha Trang, Vietnam by himself as I was in hospital. I had encouraged him to go but after a short time he was back at the hospital. I was amazed however he told me that he was pestered by young guys on motorbikes offering him all sorts of sex acts with 16 year old girls.

If you previously had a great marriage, them perhaps a little trust is in order. Personally it sounds like he is telling you the truth otherwise why would he have told you all that had happened to him.....come on give him some support and love!

Best wishes with this little stumbling block

I too have been drugged in a bar in bangla rd. Whilst talking to a young Aussie on his first sojourn about not spending his money all in one night, I think the bargirls took offence. It was late, about 2 am. but I had only imbibed for a couple of hours and felt fine. Then a very strange feeling started to consume me and I just knew I had to leave while I could. Shifting from my stool, legs not functioning correctly I staggered down the stairs next to the Aussie bar and onto soi Bangla. I must have been perceived as a drunken sailor by all around as I focused on only one thing, getting home. I cannot remember anything after that until the next day when I awoke my wife having heard me stumble to the door and dragging me to the bed. At first she thought I had been stabbed or beaten, but upon an examination realised what had obviously taken place. I had negotiated the length of Bangla Rd. walked or crawled up 2 flights of stairs but made it. All I can recall is repeating to myself "you must get home, you must get home." So be aware of what you are saying when you are in a bar area and who it will ultimately affect. They might just want to silence you if you interfere with their profiteering. I have been visiting thailand since 1985 and my brother has been married to a thai for 20 odd years. Although this experience happened a few years ago and others along the way I am still a learner. Be a little cynical, it helps...

Just had a glance at some of the Horror stories that people have endured on their travels to Thailand, and would like to offer my two cents on the subject.
1. Taxis, the availibilty of taxis and transportation in Thailand is excellent. There is a lot of
competition for your business, talk with your driver first observe his appearance and his reactions to your questions about your destination, agree on a price before you get into the cab, if the driver is giving you the runaround then simply walk away, never let them pressure you into the cab, if they are trying to rush you then most likely you will get ripped off. Also as a rule of thumb NEVER get into a cab with a driver that has any visible tattoos.
2. Bars/Clubs before entering a bar or night club scan the surrounding area and look at what type of activity is going on outside, never let someone force you into a bar/club just hang out at a safe distance and observe whats going on, a safe bet for clubs/bars is to go into a more crowded place that is off the main strip and occupied mostly by foriengners, try to pick a more classy looking place and avoid seedy spots off the beaten path.
3. Inside the Bar, inside the bar you will be overwhelmed by the activity and sexual energy flowing around, it is a fun place and you are there for a good time, so enjoy yourself. Its best to move around once inside and observe whats going on, you will be approached by many women the best thing to do is to be polite and always be aware of your wallet/valuables when being approached. Be cautious of over agressive women, just always be polite when you tell them your not interested they will usually leave you alone, the best way I have found to meet a decent girl is to approach them and feel them out with some conversation, most are very sweet and nice to talk to.
4. Police, try to avoid them at all costs, in my opinion they are the biggest crooks out on the street, I am sure there are some exceptions but very few. If for some reason you have a run in with the police remember to be polite no matter how outrageous and unbelieveable their claims against you are, Try to remain calm and engage them in some light conversation if they seem up for it, If you get involved in a dispute with a Thai and the police get involved just be calm and let the Thai rant and rave and
state their case before you, remember a lot of scam artist work with the police, the main thing to remember is they just want some money and they are not really looking to cause you harm, unless you give them reason to, ( keep some money stashed away in your shoe when you go out in case you have to pay the police off)
4.Attitiude, The last thing I want to say is avoiding trouble depends a lot on your own attitude, lots of people have oppurtunities to avoid bad situations but end up going from bad to worse because they did not take the chance to walk away when the oppurtunity was there,alcohol can definately magnify this. Scam artist are punks looking to make an easy dollar, it is easier to avoid them in your own country because you understand better the laws and are more accostumed to your enviorment, but when in a foreign country you are already a little overwhelmed and dissorientated this is increased ten fold if you are drinking. Sometimes being scammed is unavoidable if it happens just remember that you are on vacation and it is probobly better to count your losses and move on then engage in a confrontation. It is best to be a hard target, project a non confrontational but stern attitude, be aware of your surroundings and always have a plan when you go out, if you are getting too intoxicated and feel vunerable get back to your hotel room and sleep it off you can always go back out the next day.

I completly agree with lone wolf. i've lived in what i call sleazy-pattaya for over two years now and don't know weither to regret it or cheerish it. it's a must see : )
i also think tourism will decrease noticably in the next few years in thailand.
and to be honest, the thai sex industry isn't that attractive after all, most working ladies are well above 25, have generally a kid from an ex-boyfriend and the stretch marks are a clear indication; so after all i've seen better in the philippines. it is also 3 times cheaper than thailand and the philippinos are really great and fun loving people despite their harsh economic situation. so if you are male looking for fun traveling alone l would say Manila is the place where you don't want to be. crime, pollution,gambling, corruption, prostitution, drugs...all there...and if you want european standards and safety, you will pay european prices.
Back to thailand, i can certainly say that every thai is after your buck, no exception. they think you are filthy rich and so it makes it ok for them to rip you off a little...alot if you are really dumb and believe she loves you and her family is your family etc. the water buffalo is worth more to them than a cheap pennyless farang !!! a guy said before " oh come on, you are on vacation, they earn so little so what pay alittle more and every one is happy.." yeah i guess he was the bar owner...
anyway the answer is firmly NO. please don't pay more than what it costs even if it is little, that reinforces the idea that we farang are geneticaly stupid. quick example, a slice of fruit from a street vendor will ask for 20 baht ( about USD 0.70 cents ) you might think it is very cheap, you are paying it DOUBLE cause thais pay 10 baht, half the price. same fruit, same vendor, so if he makes a profit margin from selling fruit to thai's at 10 baht, he is making a pure profit off of you, i don't accept that. i'll smile and give him 10 baht like everyhuman being around him/her. we were attracted by the prices in the first place, but if i have to pay rent, food ,tickets,taxis,event etc. More where is the deal ? it is not ok if i stay LONGER with the same amount of money ? so anyway that is another issue, double standard etc. at times i feel like a black american in the mid 20's what he felt like, really ( Jing Jing Looo ).
thais have no respect what so ever for foreigners, except few exceptions, perhaps in the extreme north
( of Lana or Tibetian ancestry : ) to make it simple they put up with you and your farang request for a short period, then you see their ugly side. defenetly stay away from all thai police, they do find pleasure in catching a farang doing something prohibited or in fight or argument with a thai citizen.
very important point, never ever pick a fight in thailand even if they deserve it, everyone will rush in and kick your butt, be alert and cool down. i've seen americans in a pools of blood over a few extra hundred bath on their bar bill...let it go, it is not worth it under all circumstances, you will always lose, believe it.
safety ? if you think you want to get crazy and drink like a horse and be safe ? go get another cheap hotel room to do your business, take with you only cheap cell phone, enough money for a day and half in cash, room key : ) laptop, nice perfumes, expensive clothes etc. stay in my main accomodation where i take
NO ONE for my privacy's sake and certainly safety. they can tell how much money you have by where you live or by you suit case, perfum etc. and now i think things are much deferent in thailand compared to before. i mean, recreational drugs penalties are extremly harsh and non-flexable, sex industry isn't that great, and i'm in my mid 30's, and have seen alot better action in the past. plus it is actually getting more expensive with the baht gaining ground...so less bahts for your foreign currency : (
they treat you like s***t basically by everyone..and the funny part is that you're paying to se this with your money...i mean if i'm going to pay everything more might as well spend the money in Montecarlo, cost me same...just the ticket is a s***tload of money guys...
if you think to find love/friends in thailand they will laugh in your face : ) it 2010 guys...
btw a thai women is always seen as a prostitute while with a farang...is not so nice is it...
like one girl told me, she rather merry a thai from a good family such as a lawyer or dentist and live a normal life and children. it makes perfect sense. quick example, go to one high-end deaprtment store in BKK such as Siam PAragon and look at the "high-end" thai couples, those guys are every thai girls dream, perhaps also some american or european i might say in some cases to be impartial. notice how the rich thai girls don't even look at you for a split second, cause they foresee no future and all farangs are labeled as horny,ignorant, ill-mannerd, rude, dirty and smelly ( we can smell some of the food they eat and they can't and viceversa ) i hate to say this but after almost 3 years in thailand i felt like ghost sometimes from the lonelyness, i'm good looking : ) tall, white, long brown hair, i keep fit, tat's and dress well above the average expat in BKK ( and i wear no gold : )...
yet, they really look at you as a bundle of money. i wish there were another place to go with similar and better characteristics ( next i'm going back to BKK ) there !!! take advantage of the medical and cosmetic ( esp.surgery ) in thailand, i went to a hosital whose young doctors graduated from Boston university etc. and paid them very little : ) that's cause they do it for the family prestige...
you know where i used to pick up girls in pattaya ? at a net cafe where all the girls looked pretty and video chatted with boyfriends abroad sending money !!! to keep here away from mongers !!! and after they were done they would kiss 'em good bye and come with me to my room !! what a satsfaction !!
anyway take advantage of nature spots etc. if you think to stay in thailand long time, then move around the country, that way they don't get annoyed by your routine. it is not that expensive in term of transport, rent is the same everywhere...
watch out when you pay deposit money, try to bargain half of what they ask, you will never get it back, there is always an excuse Just before you leave...my best advice is : go in there with clear ideas in what you want to do, get it done, and get out until next time, maybe.
and again the best advice on partying hard is to rent a room for that specific reason and leave the next day after a shower and a cup a coffee. guest will need to check in and leave id, although i heard stories of the same id being used by 5 or 6 girls...ladyboys are just guys looking to make money, they are not gay, watch out cause they are very gentile in the bars etc. but they flip out at your place once there and start blackmailing you and call their friends over and threaten to break stuff ( tv etc. ) if you not give then 2 or 3 hundred dollar...they care blades and knives, smoke yaba and ice in bathroom while taking "shower" and ask you to take shower too so "we" are clean, but the moment you setep in bathroom the frisk your room like thunder, ladyboys and working women, but mostly LB, in half the hotels they don't let them in cause they are know to be only trouble ( and believe me they don't like getting screwed in the butt unless it were really necesary ) thai's claim being tolerant with such attitudes but in fact ask any thai and tell you they despise LB's... thai are very judgmental of what they can not see : )

after all thailand is the only country in the world where the locals get pissed if you innocently try to speak their language, in almost 3 years i learnt nothing from the people, all books and net. the girls get scared if you speak thai and run off, cause you understand too much. if i spent 3 years else where i would have picked the language, and i speak fleuntly 4 and study 2 more. it is the only place where if you ask the locals how to say something in thai, they will systematicaly answer with a question followed by a remark :
" why you want know ? thai too difficult for farang .." yes it makes it even more difficult when you answer me that way instead of pronouncing the bloody word, i used to think that they would respect me for making an effort, but no. until i spoke with some farang guys that spoke kickas* thai !!! it is not impossible, and when you see it in action : ) i feel proud to be a farang !! yet after awhile, i realized i didn't care,it is not worth the effort, they can speak in dialect and slang and cheat you anyway... plus one thing that piss me off about the thais is how they speak english only if their interests are at stake, other wise they ask you if you speak thai : ) and a minute ago they were speaking decent english.
in the philippines i was struke by everyones english skills, i expected them to be pretty fluent in Spanish....
anyway good luck and watch out, if you want to drop me a line welcome : This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

oh, the guy who cheated on his wife thinking he was drugged ? ..nice one pal ; )

@lone wolf, nice post with some great advice, however, the biggest problem by far as you've stated is ALCOHOL, as a police officer I cannot keep count of alcohol related incidents, its shocking and disgusting!

i think this whole blog/thread is piloted by the authoretise...

oh yeah, we all like to drink reasonably and in a civilized manner, but you know better than me the root of most violent episodes in the kingdom.

are you a farang tourist police officer ? : )

you know what ? i'm a seasoned traveler, have been not just "around" some cultures and countries but actually lived in them and to a certain degree also within the society and people. Although as i have seen from my experience here, a foreigner has no chance in the first place.

So that is why my advice to those who come here is to enjoy the nature, the cosmetical and medical facilities and take care of their body in all sense, rather than destroying oneself : )
that way we all be happy and not discussing this : )

Sawatdeenakap

@Daniel, no I'm not a tourist police officer, I'm on a fortnights holiday from Blighty, I'm a young Bobby, with only 13 Months experience. By the way, I meant drink problems in my country, apologies for the confusion.

Well! C.Smith...

Long story short on that one, to cut off the people acknowledging his sincerity, the truth will be that his 'overnight jewelry exchange' (hah) was a ploy either pre thought out or not, to then sleep with a bar girl. Ask yourself this, do you think he would have told you all if he hadn't been drugged?

I reckon, post drugged realisation you are in hot water with anyone. I would probably forget to use protection in that state too.

Even if he swears blind he would never do that... he knows where he was and 'needing a beer' enough to venture out (into pattaya)? Come off it!

He nay wekk be truky sorry, and good luck to him. And only he will know what decisions he was really making pre-drugs.

@Christian, you writing style is very hard to dechipher, any chance you could re-write, but this time, in the Queens English old man?
Apologies, if English is NOT your first language?

i have just came back from bangkok,where i too was drugged and robbed on kho san road,i was about 12.30am when i stopped a beer at street vender selling beer from a red ice bucket after two beers went to head back to hotel,woke up dumped in some waste land outside bangkok minus all my cash and credit cards,took an hour to find a police station,after making a report they dropped me of at the brittish embassy to stop cards,but they cant give u any money,it took me anther 9 hours to walk back to kho san road and hotel,reported again to police station at the top of khosan road,they were not intrested in doing anything about it,they knew who was behind it.Still in dispute with credit card companys over 2grand spent on my cards .ON A MORE CHEERFULL NOTE THAILAND IS AN AMAZING PLACE AND I STILL GO BACK NEXT YEAR JUST NEED TO BE A BIT MORE CAREFULLY NEXT TIME.

THAILAND IS AN AMAZING PLACE & Patong phuket is the best

Sorry that was short but it is great place.
when you arrive at Bangkok airport and you want a taxi, go downstairs and outside to your right there is a taxi office, tell them where you want to go and they will give you a ticket with a price on it, you give that to the taxi driver and that’s what you pay and its cheap. If you are on your own and you fancy a beer GET IT IN THE HOTEL safer?. I meet a lot of Thai people in patong beach and all of them have been friendly, they have some good nite clubs there and I enjoy myself all the time. just have fun and don’t get drunk, if girls see you are having fun they want to join in too, I end up with girls on each arm and they always want to come back to the hotel, I always say yes you can but no sex, because I am happy without it, I don’t need it, but I do enjoy seeing young girls bodies they are so sexy, and they try their hardest to get me going which I love.
The thing is I have never and never will pay for sex, and they still come back for more, I will buy them a drink in the club but that’s it, man they have even paid for me to get in a club, but we do have a lot of fun, it is like haven out there, I am 53 and they are mostly 22 to 28

@Bob, wow, no sex, you have a little chipolato don't you Bob? Ha, ha, just joking, I like your style and honesty by the way!

sorry thats for phuket airport. [ go downstairs and outside to your right there is a taxi office, tell them where you want to go and they will give you a ticket with a price on it, you give that to the taxi driver and that’s what you pay and its cheap.]
when you arrive at Bangkok airport at the front get a ticket first before getting in taxi

Wow what an idiot that lady divorcing her man for being rapped. Also guys dont be stupid, Thai women ( what ive seen in Bangkok anyways) are 99 percent hookers, whether it is in the bars, streets or from the internet. They just want to get money from you even if it means they pretend to be you girl friend and say they love you.

I went to Bangkok for 5 days with my husband and his sister. What a dump that place is, I mean, Bangkok is such a famous place that is supposed to be beautiful, other than some cool temple we visited, we really felt disrespected. I mean everyone there, taxi, tuk tuk, shop owners except for our hotel and where we ate tried to either rip us off or just keep convincing us to buy their rubbish. I just try to have a look at what they were selling and right away they start to pressuring you to buy and when you walk away some of them grab your arm try to pull you and tell you to offer them something. I noticed something, every time we would stop and look at our map to see where we were going, some one would come and pretend to help us find where we were going and tell us this tuk tuk will take us on a tour but will always bring you to some suit shop where immediately they pull you to the office and start telling you how many you want. If you are going there for vacation for resorts or beaches then it is safer but if you are going for shopping or sex save your self the expensive ticket and do that stuff in your own country because you will either get rapped or have AIDS or robbed and you will just spend the rest of your money on fake nike. As for the people who go there more than once or live there for a long time, I just dont get why you would leave your civilized country and go to a 3rd world country for fun, atleast back home you can fell safer and the police wouldnt just look at you as some cash machine and ignore you ( authorities there DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT YOU just your money )