Sounds like a lot to pay for a dowry if she aint been married before, maybe double what it should be. But since you are a foreigner maybe it's not such an unusual request.

I meant to say it sounds like a lot of dough if she HAS been married before. Its possible her family want to be sure of you before they let her leave thailand, to feel secure that you aint gonna sell her into sexual slavery. But how do you know her anyway?

Use your head to think, and not that thing between your legs?

Well I think that is alot of money too but I would like you to think about Thai lady they are not the same is bad luck for you to found the bad one I'm sorry to hear that too

15000 USD is a lot in fact far too much, 100 thousand baht is ok, however remember when a Thai man marries a Thai lady he usually becomes the bread winner for the family including parents. But definently do not be pushed into handing over large sums of money/

Way out of line, if you send the money, say goodbye to your honey!

is there no end to the bs they come up with? like build mama and papa a house, they need money, they very poor. these girls in pattaya are at it all the time. buy me this buy me that. gold and phones anything thats pawnable they will sell. then ask you to replace them or buy them back so they can pawn them again, theres no end to the continuous give me money? they then move on swiftly because they dont want to lose time. so be on your guard at all times

This guy has put up some basic info on marriage scams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHO5fUddZR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkIbsQ9svQ0

Sure,that is LAND OF SMILE...more appropriate is AMAZING THAILAND...really amazing...stay away of social,daily life-as much as possible,THAT's the way,the only one...Be smiled to all and everyone but don't believe anything they say...To THAI LADY(poster above)...MAJORITY of Thai women are like this...Very rare can find a good hearted and honest woman...Sorry but that's the fact.I am not talking about tries to improve life.It would be fine with me if they are not so tricky and low in deceiving farangs,manipulating.Pretending,lies-that is most commom thing we can find here...Speaking about women style here.Makes me so sick again...

Milo - Your views are a disgrace. You say the majority of Thai females are bad. How can you quantify such a generalisation? Maybe you can enlighten us with your experiences?

To an OWL, try to be an OWL, ok? :)
My question to you: did you read what MIKE says? Why would you need any other experience? Is it clear what the man says? Disgrace belongs to me or to that kind of women. What do you think? In other words, your point is that MINORITY doing here.Is that so? I do not know whom you are and where you from are but I will tell you-my experience is quite different then you could say by my attitude about this issue,ok mai?ALL i said is : all westerners should to be smiled to all and everyone here but arses against the wall and opened eyes.That was my point.They should know what is going on here and how easy is to be a victim here.Unfortunately,victim of THEIR(westerner's) emotions.One more thing,i can judge ONLY about woman who are running after farangs here.At least,about 90% of them.Is it good quota to name it MAJORITY?Appreciate your answer to me,even in sarcastic way,a bit.Regards,stay well wherever you are now...oooppps ONE more thing-i LOVE this country but that doesn't mean i will be deaf,blind or mute if i do not like something here,ok mai?And tricks of Thai women(majority and Esan,mostly)i dislike.It is for sure.

Milo - I did indeed read Mike's comment and I'm not disagreeing with anything he said. I agree that many Western men have bad experiences with Thai ladies, and should be wary of a certain type of girl (and it pisses me off when it happens). But, I don't agree that the majority of Thai females are running after westerners and are that way inclined. As you said, maybe we've had different experiences /gone to different places

...... and hopefully it won't happen to me ;)

Of course, dear OWL, MAJORITY doing it.Majority of Thai women who are running after farangs.We could try to speak in numbers but entire life i was bad abouth math ;)
However, let's try to.I am speaking about majority of ONE type of women here - who is runing to catch some farang(most of them are Esan,North East area).Next, they have almost half of population as females.Could be 10 MIL in the age between 18 and 35.And that way we can not make calculation.But this way : I guess just 10% of us here, was able to resist to attractivity of Thai lady.To marry or to have one as a g/f(by the way, here is impossible dating them,do you know?).So, how many western males living here or visit this country?How many ARE married and living(trying to)in some western country?Worth to think,right?And 90% of us have a Thai wife or Thai g/f.(some have lady-boy,huhuh-freky but true).In that way, if you think, you can see it is a huge number.This mean MAJORITY, in my words.Majority in mixed couples.I am looking just for COUPLES-farang and Thai woman.And i am sure 90% of them is not MAJORITY of all Thai females.Normaly.I think WE are making mistakes and it is because we don't understand their way of life.All we know is from brochures,that's not enough.And when we arrive,we are victimized.It is hard to resist to all that beauties :)If we are speaking about MIXED couples for SURE majority doing bad things.I didn't find the clue why most of that majority are Esan area.Thais will explain - because they are poor.Farangs will say because they are short,thin and dark.Thais wrong,if someone is poor does it mean everything is allowed?I don't think so.Also farangs are wrong.Most Esan women are strong bodies,they are mixed with Laotians,through the centuries.On the North-they are mixed with Chinese.I am surprised no any male,married with Thai,didn't attacked me already as happened many times for this my words.They said,most common"defence")as they are living happily.Sure,even blind hen can find some grain of corn,but i like to say to them let your"hun"(i hate that word to hear)to be SURE you are out of money and wait ONE MONTH only.Meanwhile,arrange your best friend be somewhere around so you will see how long will last her love and what she will do.Of course,they don't dare to try.I have a book made by farangs,with me,here.One is american guy and the other one is german.American graduated in deep psichology and fine art and history of art(my maiden).German is about economy.So,two of them made an excellent book and tried to explain why that things are going on,at all.What i saw there as possibly reason-i like.Sound as solid logic.Rather to don't talk about those reasons.In that reason is also the clue why we are victimized here,why we are comming here so consequences are sometimes tragic.One more time,if you was not here longer then 3 months-you will not understand me.I do not mind you that.I just want westerners think first about to come to Thailand for to marry someone.All around the world-there are many places to try to do it.I want white people to KNOW what is going on here.That is all dear OWL.In that my wish,i think THIS site is FANTASTIC.Regards,Stay well mate.Milos

I got caught by a 19 year old girl from Korat, she said she was a virgin and would only have sex when she is married, i thought fine she had the face and body to die for. we would get married in sorngkran part of the deal was that i give parents 200,000 baht to build house i foolishly gladly handed the money over. when this was done she went mad, I mean as if she was possesed by something, if this was acting she was very good. this cost me another 30,000 baht for treatment in the temples, she went to a ritual called a saracram, can anyone enlighten me on what that was about. anyway before I left I gave her 15,000 to spend while I was away for a month, and she wouldnt have to work. a week later on the telephone she said she was going to have to get a job to feed her parents I wasnt very happy about this, on the next telphone conversation she said she wanted money for furniture, I thought to myself they are still building the house what does she want furniture for, so I wouldnt give her any more until i got back in april when we marry. after this i got no more I love you or calling me darling. I am convinced she was with someone else while on the phone. she was very clever as this prompted me to end the relationship, I am heartbroken I dont know if it because I lost her or the eight thousand pounds I spent on her. Mickey

Foolish Mickey...Broken heart you said?Say some pray in the name you are free of freak...Be gratefull to God you saved yourself and i can tell you-YOU WERE LUCKY because she is NOT with her brain much.If she was-you would pay so high price...Money is nothing in compare what COULD happen to you...Lucky guy you are.Cheers mate...Milos

written by Dave Anderson, Wed 13 Feb 2008 10:22:35 CST

Use your head to think, and not that thing between your legs?
THIS IS BEST ADVISE YOU COULD GET...believe or not THAT IS where we make mistake,i mean westerners...Good luck next time,read my comments please,also a few other men here...

Mickey... You mentioned that the girl was/is 19 years old... you didn't mention how old you are. There is just one point that makes me wonder. You say, "she had the face and body to die for". Is that what you wanted to marry her for? It sure sounds like it. If that is the case, it is no wonder that you got caught up in this mess.... Did you even know her for more than 6 months?? Or even 3 months?? Do you really think how you went about it is how long lasting, loving relationships are built?

thanks for your soothing comments, yes I jumped in head first eyes closed. I am 48 by the way, hard lesson to learn but it couldnt happen again.

thanks milos

"MAJORITY of Thai women are like this...Very rare can find a good hearted and honest woman..." Milo, when I read your post I thought you meant exactly what you wrote. Thanks for clarifying it - now I realise you meant "the majority of Thai woman who come from the poorer areas and are looking for / have a Western boyfriend". I think you are also inferring these are the girls who work in bars and / or are using the internet to make 'contact' with Western males.

Coincidently, I lived with a half Isaan, half Laos girl for 2 years. She NEVER asked me for much (i.e. she never asked for any money for her family, or for expensive items for herself) and contributed what she could towards the joint finances (and at one point, due to a mistake of my own, we didn't have much money). As you know, a lot of people from Isaan are disadvantaged when it comes to educational and socio-economic opportunities (hence, a disproportionate number of such girls end up working in bars). I guess you would call me lucky. I was introduced to her by Thai friends and went on several dates with her before anything amorous happened. Anyway, as this is a website for scams, I'm sure you're not interested in my story.

Enjoy Songkran and take care.

P.S. To Western men coming over here, please read Mickey's comments and take heed. I'm don't know where he met the girl but lets face it, do you really want to get into a relationship with a bar-girl or start handing over vast amounts of hard earned cash to someone you hardly know?

Look guys, what do you expect if you go to places like Pattaya?! The good ladies stay with their families and not in a go go bar!!! So look at proper places.

I met this girl in a quiet bar in Jomtien, it was her first time working in a bar, I thought I would rescue her from a career of prostitution. the thanks I got at the end of the day was a large dent in my finances and a broken heart, I have been coming to Thailand for years but have never trusted the Thais , everywhere you go all they want is to get your money off you, from the second you arrive at the airport and even when you are leaving the country they are after your money. My brother has said the same ,he used to love Thailand but has started to hate the people. the whole country is corrupt, it is as if it is designed to extract money from farangs. even the Thai baht looks like it is designed to look as if everything is cheap. a hundred baht seems to be a pittance but when you look at a thousand baht you are talking a lot of money, I have learnt my lesson now, have no compassion for a Thai and you cant go wrong.

Mickey...you said "all they want is to get your money". This is not true for all, but close to 99% true for a 19 year old bargirl witha 48 year old guy.

I am pleased you have seen the light!!

Thai Naval officer marries Thai school teacher 10 years ago
10bht gold and 100000bht
Large Dowrys for "good" educated girles are typical

Owl, thanks for the story of a positive experience with an Issan girl. I have been married to one for 5 years and neither she nor or family EVER ask for money. They are poor rice farmers like most Issan people. She says she has always worked to keep herself and her family and that's the way it will continue.

Yes the marriage dowry cost 100,000 plus 10 bht gold for the wife , but her parents paid for the wedding out of their 100,000 and her mother still has the rest in the bank. We recently bought a house in her village and had it renovated. Her mother paid for some of the work because we live in Australia and my wife paid her back when we went there. Mum never questioned that she should use her money to help us. Like parents everywhere.

The population of the town I live in in Australia is 4000 and there are 20 Thais who live here and are married to Farang. Some for 30 years some for 1 year. All of the spouses have the same story. Yes sometimes they have to give money to the parents, buts thats the Thai way. No old age pension in Thailand. At least 8 of those girls worked in bars at some time.

Boys there a good Thai women out there. Take your time and don't rush in to offering to pay for everything. If she askes for houses or medical expenses in the first 3 months forget it. The good girls, and there are many in bars because that's all they have got to sell, are embarressed to ask you for money. The bad girls don't care. As Dave said and your should know do not allow that thing between your legs to do your thinking

docsmith,
I agree with you, there are good Thai women out there just like any other country. I myself never good experiences. But i am not going to bash whole nation, based on tow or three bad experiences I had.

LOOK, there is no such thing as a dowry in Thailand, we do not pay each others family when marrying,these girls are hardcore scamming HOOKERS,giving the rest of us thai women a bad name. If you want to meet a genuine thai girl I suggest you follow this advice,

1. Real thai ladies are ALWAYS dressed respectfully, no matter what, they think that showing skin is totally inappropiate, I mean damn I've seen them bathing in the sea with jeans and a t-shirt on! hookers will drop it like its hot and have everything possible showing.

2. They usually are horribly shy when approached by a 'farang' and feel almost intimidated by them, (not sure why)they DO NOT smile and flirt, its considered vulgar. whereas hookers will make a bee-line for you.

3. They do not hang out at bars that are full of tourists, but prefer a bar full of thai's & I mean no one but thai's there. Hookers will infest anywhere the farangs are. Thankfully you will only find the hookers in high tourist spots, Pattaya, Phuket, Koh Samui, etc...

I stayed in Patong, Phuket a few summers back and met up with some thai hookers who told me every little scam they made up, I watched in horror as they pick their pray and try to extort, rob, even murder their clients for money, pls be careful and I would avoid them like the plague. to meet a decent thai girl you have to go to into the markets, the unspoilt sleepy seaside resort like Bang Sapan, the stores, the cinema's, the jungles!.

Houston lady, I am afraid you are very very wrong, it is normal practice for a dowry of money and gold to exchange hands, although I guess it depends what region of Thailand your from. Normal is maybe 80,thousand baht cash, and 4 baht gold necklace and 4 baht gold chain, the brides mother pays for the ceremony and all the arrangements, this has been researched and confirmed by Thai ladies (not hookers) this takes place between Thais as well not just Thai Farang marriages.

P.S. Thai lady in Houston

YOU SOUND VERY BITTER,AND DEMEANING TO YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN,AND LADIES.

AThaiLadyinHouston, have you ever been to Thailand at all?

Dowries are indeed paid between thais. It's a custom brought by the chinese.

When you leave the tourist areas almost EVERYBODY smiles at the happy farang, including "real thai ladies".

And you find hookers in every town in Thailand, only about 5-10% of the hookers go with tourists.

People People,,,,, you talk about all thai ladies like they r all bad.....there is bad and good all around the world if u r stupid enough 2 fall for a bad thai or farang more fool you, and u wil get burnt...
I hav a thai girlfriend for 3 years and we have a 7 month old baby and she knows not to f@@@ wiv me not cos i would hurt her but just same as alll my girlfriends in the past i wil just get up and leave, move on.... and the same as all my girlfriends they dont want that cos i look after them...
And if u open ur eyes around the world there are hookers everyware....
A very good book 2 read is called PRIVATE DANCER, plz people read it then u wil understand wot some off these thai girls hav been through and why they do wot they do, lets get street wise....(raped by there own fathers is one thing, read the book guys)...

I am sorry folks , but I was wrong about this girl from Korat I have found out she was genuine and I broke her heart.

Warm Greetings to all. Life teaches us to take the good with the bad.
Mickey I am really truly sorry for your hard lessons. However, don't be too hard on yourself. Life is Life, it is not always fair. Look for the lesson to be learned. Things dont happen in life alwaus for the reason we think, in this case in the name of love, but life for sure will teach us what we need to learn and we can either become "Bitter or Better".
Maybe you broke her heart, but for those of us following your story we may still say to you "Count your blessings" If it was meant to be, it would have been.
Many people in a life time either break hearts or have gotten their heart broken repeatedly. Its OK... there is life after for all involved.
I will marry a wonderul Thai woman in July and pay a $10,000usd dowery and I already bought her a nice gold necklace and bracelet. We love each other so much i wouldn't care if it was $100,000usd which is what the parents started asking for. Of course I thought if I marry this woman I will have the rest of our lives to care for her parents so i offered $10,000usd. Fair is Fair.... the parents just want me to love their daughter and care for her, giving her a better life here in the USA. I will do just that to my very best abilty and I will love her family as my own and care for them the same.

Thanks for sharing, Everyone, the good and the not so good. In perspctive we can learn and appreciate all perspectives.

The girl from Korat made out I broke her heart. If you have got a broken heart, you cant eat and sleep, it seems strange to me that you would leave home, go to Bangkok and work alone (thats what she told me.) two and two are still adding to five, anyway it was a stupid idea to get married it would never of worked out. I would be at home wondering what she was doing now. and I dare say not at home twiddling with her fingers. thanks to everyone for your support, nothing is as it seems in Thailand. anyway on songkran day I had a wonderful day with a gorgeous girl.

Mickey,

At last, you seem to have regained your senses. Some of the other posters are right - if you meet a girl in a bar and think you have a future together, you are simply deluding yourself!

Respectable Thai girls ould be horrified at the thought of working in a bar, and however genuine they may seem at first, a bar girl will be very hard to "convert".

Your comment about saving the girl from a life of prostitution, is a very noble thought. However, please remember the saying...

"You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl"

thank you enthusiast. it is hard to see from the inside out. I hope people read about this and avoid the total misery that I went through. I read about a young man that went to Cambodia and dissapeared. When I was taken to this village in Korat I did not tell a single person where I was going, if the family decided to do something with me, no one would ever of found me, and look at the anguish that would of caused my family and friends. tread carefuly and dont jump in, I hope I have helped someone else avoid the hell I went through.

Mickey,

Hope this doesn't sour your overall experience of Thailand...

Be sure to go out there, have fun, foll around...

but when it comes to long term commitments, as Dale earlier pointed out, make sure you know the girl really well before leaping in. I'm sure there are some farang & bar girl relationships that do work out!

No I will not be bitter about it, I have learnt a hell of a lot, I understand Thai culture and speak a fair bit of the language, I certainly will not part with my money again. until the person can prove she loves me. thanks everyone there are some good people out there.

I almost got stiched up until I knew that she was after my money. Well not her. It was her mom wanted her daughter to marry me and wanted me to hand over 2,000.000 bahts. hahaha Because I didn't have the money. The mom said to her daughter in Thai. "He is stingy".

seem to me that "ThailadyinHouston" is very biased against Thai ladies, I wonder are you really a Thai? I have been to Bangkok many times and I have friends who are from respectable and well-to-do family in Bangkok, none of them are like what you have describe, bathing in the sea with jeans and t-shirts on or intimidated by farangs, do not smile etc. Come on, even our mothers will smile if a stranger smiles at them. There are hookers everywhere, not only BKK. Singapore is also infested with China and Vietnam Pros, I dunno why they chose this line but I certainly believe there are sad stories behind their decision or actions, of course I am not saying this can justify their lies or fraud but in the first place, if men didnt frequent their bars or lust after their bodies, how would they even got cheated? I do think that there are nice Thais around, be it man or woman.

thank you to milos, Dale,owl,michael,Taus,docsmith,jay,Dean,tommy and Enthusiast. I hope to meet anyone of you one day and have a drink with you, you give me no negatives, I appreciate the sympathy you gave me. anyone beware of the spell you can be trapped with. I have met some lovely bar girls who have asked for nothing. I have met a few idiot bar girs also,but they are distant memories. one mistake by me doesnt mean all Thai girls are bad. Fon (girl from Korat) broke my heart but I am glad I met her, I learnt a hard lesson. Dont jump in the deep side of the pool if you cant swim. cheers to you all. Mickey

c'mon guys, lets get real here. Most men are aminals, and women are our prey, especially young, good looking ones. Been-there, done-that, I'm sure a lot of you have. I feel for a lot of you. But how many of you actually have experienced the true beauty of Thailand and its people. Thailand is not all about bars and girls. You wont find any beauties there. What you will find is exactly what a lot of you have experienced, a lot of heartaches and empty wallets. C'mon, you are not 19 and 20 year-olds here. I'm sure a lot of you knew exactly what your're doing and what your intentions were. If you want to put yourself in a situation like that, at least know how to play the game. However, if you are truly seeking for long-term relationship, broaden your view and look elsewhere. Lets face it, good women are hard to find.

Thanks casey I take your point, I was not infering that I want to date bar girls, in future no way as you say look elsewhere

I am in Thailand now looking for a girlfriend.

I will never find her in a bar so Im on my way to the smaller towns. Korat , Udon Thani and also finally I will end my trip in Chiang Rai up in the north.

I will take my time and find the right girl, if she's honest , if her family is good people. Even if they're poor they can be trusted. I know other farangs that have been happy married for years with poor Isaan girls. So its up to you , take your time , you should stay in Thailand for at least 2 months to find out who you can trust.
And dont spend a lot of money , its cheap to eat and drink, try to be nice to her , but not too nice. Try to learn a few words in Thai, learn their culture and customs and you will be more respected as a farang .
But if you're choice is to find the nearest beer bar and get drunk , just stay in Pattaya.



Farangs only looking for bargirls will never have a happy ending for sure.

Casey, Mikey, whats wrong with bar girls? the provide a service, a ver good service, theres nothing better than giving a bar girl a good creamy facial and then going home to your wife for some tom yum gai mmmm

Hiya Pi Mickey,

After finished reading all comments, I just happen to get an itchy hand wanting to write my own. lol. This is my 2nd time to write a comment like this as I am a Thai, just like many other Thais who do not really want to give opinions as we are trying as much as possible to avoid conflicts. My first opinion was given for Kat – the first thai Big Brother member – on one of the Thai’s website. As mainly opinions were given toward her are -ve, so I just tried to give some ideas that will help them to be able to think broader - more ve about us – Thai women.

First of all, congrat to Pi Mickey! As you have had just been rescued fm hell. lol .. joking. But, really.. really… I have met, seen, and heard from many men who have been ripped off heartedly as well as financially from Thai B-girls all the time. Your case was nothing compare to theirs.

To look for a good Thai woman is not easy, but it’s not that difficult – if there is a will, there is a way Bro!! Like others said “Go to the decent places to get decent people” ,however, in this case for many tourists who visit Thailand. They might consider majority of pubs, and bars are normal place to hook up wt girls, but it’s not like that in Thailand. As I have lived in a western country for nearly 3 years I realised that in western country particularly this one I am living in (Sorry I can’t mention the name of the country as I want to make sure that I don’t offend anyone, however, you should have known where I live since you first saw my greeting above.) do not have the specific type of the DodGy bars, bars with pinky light for an example, like they do in Thailand. So, I have seen many decent tourists falling for B-girls because, firstly, they don’t know that those girls are B-girls. Second of all, I guess when tourists go to normal bars in Thailand where there are normal Thai women, they might find it hard to get them women, not like B-girls who so welcoming and smiling. In this case, it’s not that Thai women were playing hard to get, but it’s just traditional behaviour of us – these behaviours includes shy, quite, don’t dare to look into your eyes, etc etc. It’s not that they don’t like you, some of them they can even like you so much like they never liked anyone like they like you before, but they are just shy!! So.. what you need to do is BE PATIENT.

Also, other decent places to get a good Thai women can be at the cinemas, café’, the malls, universities – I think uni is a good place to meet Thai women as majority of them come from good families; good families here need not to be rich families it also means families who realise how important education is, and want their kids to be able to walk on their own feet in the future so they encourage and support their kids to gain the highest educations they can – you might also find some educated Thai women from poor families that even better I think.. Why? Because you can see that them girls are trying hard to be able to be independent as they realise that education will help them to get better future apart fm working experience. And we all know that educations take time – it’s a process – where you have to be patient, dedicated, and work hard for it. However, for some people they would say that B-girls don’t have opportunities, some are poor, and some have to feed their families. But schools are free until high school. Moreover, there are any other ways to find work apart from turning to be a B-girl. Getting jobs in Thailand for Thai ppl is very easy particularly those manual work. Not like in western countries – there are a lot of competitions, law and regulations, taxes, NI number, etc etc. Also manual works in western country is very hard as I am the one because it’s a lot more compromise among working style in Thailand. In westurn countries – they make sure that you have something to do every minute you are working.

As well some people might say .. BUT pay in Thailand is nothing, so what?? But TOO!! expenses in Thailand is nothing as well!! Foods are everywhere.. Fresh and Cheap!! So, I m not so sure that to be a B-girl in Thailand is by destiny or ChoiCE – to get easy money!!

Next, Good Thai women come with Good Manners! They don’t eat SouP ( liquid u know liquid it’s not like dry KFC Chicken or Burger King burger) with their hands nor striking a post like they came out from Playboy magazines, would be more acceptable if they are posing like they came out fm GQ – a bit more classy!!

Next of the next, Good Thai women might be a bit to extremely shy when it comes to holding hands, kisses, or .... u know what I’m going to….. Please don’t back off and think that they are not interested it’s just another cultural diff here as we don’t tend to express our emotions particularly in the public places. Also, this is even more important – some of Good Thai women are scared of tourists because we have seen a lot in the movies that you quite rough when it comes to ….xxxx…. as you can see that we are very gently so just try to be as gently/soft as much as possible. But when she trusts you and if you know to put it into the right button she might transform from a serious librarian to a TiGer!! Many Good Thai women like foreigners too, not just B-girls. We think that You guys are soooooooooo Cute and very Romantic when comparing to Thai guys.

Anyway, there are other tips to get a Good Thai women but it’s late now and I am getting sleepy, so hopefully those ideas I gave would help.

Will be cont’ later on….

Bye for now.

john nothing wrong with bar girls, Ive me some really nice girls, but some not so nice girls, One girl I went with for years, she asked me for a washing machine for her mother, i didnt give it to her. She talked me into getting a gold ring , I told her if she pawned it Buddha will punish you, next time I saw her , I asked her where it was, " I pawned it ,I didnt have any money". Chak I know people have been ripped off worse than me, I advise anyone who thinks they are being tucked up, you probably are, trust your instincts thats what I did, it hurt but I think I was heading for worse, I was watching one of my videos, and the girl was on the phone talking Thai, then at the end of the conversation she said "we will meet soon I promise" I had about four days left. Chak cant wait for more advice.

Chak can you tell us some horror stories