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Parents Demand Money
Monday, 28 January 2008

This scam I had been warned about for several years in Koh Samui:

Farang invites a pole swinger or even a "regular" girl to go out.  The next day a man and/or woman knocks on his door saying they are the parents and demanding that he marry their daughter.  After he declines, they give him three options: marry her, give them x,000,000B, or face rape charges.  When he also declines this, they come back with the police who then pressure the farang to negotiate or face a prison term.  They then split the proceeds with the parents.

In may case I never took the woman out, but simply had dinner with her and her mother at their house, and hugged her in front of her mother when I left.  They came at me with the police, saying that a hug or any contact with a woman was illegal in Thailand and I would need to negotiate proper compensation.  I contacted a lawyer who at first laughed and then threatened them with a defamation suit.  Haven't hear anything back fom them yet, but who knows?

 

 

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written by Mikey, Mon 17 Mar 2008 07:15:47 CDT
whew! thats scary! I lived in Koh Samui for 3 months and never heard of this one. Best advise is if they dont know how to find you, they wont come looking...
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written by wayne, Fri 25 Apr 2008 06:22:03 CDT
Your real problem comes in if she is under 18 you will pay the cops and the parents.
and may face jail time as well be sure you know who you are with
Wayne
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written by Pierrot, Thu 14 Aug 2008 21:29:01 CDT
@wayne:
"Your real problem comes in if she is under 18 you will pay the cops and the parents."

no, the legal age for sex in Thailand is 16.
working in a bar is prohibited under 18, as well as paying for sexual favors of women under the age of 18.
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written by sean, Wed 08 Oct 2008 15:08:02 CDT
hi if u ever want a genuine women with good heart go to korat or mae hon son or doi tao chiang rai chiang dao or nakhon ratchasima or udon tani
or chiangmai ( hangdong) sanpatong
abit of advise go out country thailand and u will find good lady good heart faithful loving
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written by sean, Wed 08 Oct 2008 15:09:15 CDT
if u ever want a genuine women with good heart go to korat or mae hon son or doi tao chiang rai chiang dao or nakhon ratchasima or udon tani
or chiangmai ( hangdong) sanpatong
abit of advise go out country thailand and u will find good lady good heart faithful loving
STAY OUT OF THE CITY no good
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written by Theo, Wed 08 Oct 2008 19:14:11 CDT
Thanks Sean. But I know even a better place: Amsterdam
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written by Tomski, Wed 12 Nov 2008 05:04:51 CST
Absolute rubbish....this never happens!!!
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written by harry, Mon 01 Dec 2008 21:10:28 CST
you might have to know the thai/buddha calendar before you look at the id
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written by johnny_wadd, Sun 01 Mar 2009 18:13:11 CST
Lol someones always got their hands out for cash. Go online to the Thai employment web site and copy a number of job application forms. Next time someone sticks out their hands for money hand them a few copies!

http://thailanddelights.blogspot.com/
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written by Helge Dell, Sun 08 Mar 2009 05:30:25 CDT
Hahahahahaha Johnny.
You gave me the best laugh I can recall having ever.
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written by BUCKY, Tue 10 Mar 2009 09:08:39 CDT
Good one, Johnny! ha ha
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written by Tnechuq, Mon 27 Apr 2009 12:40:07 CDT
Dont pay the money, sillys. Take them to court... they'll just disappear.
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written by Andy, Mon 29 Jun 2009 08:31:26 CDT
This sounds far fetched, I've not heard this one in all my years in Thailand, likely it was even her parents. Problem is, when you're involved with anything illegal or dodgy (including bar girls) you're exposed to these types and their ilk. You need to be wisened up. Did you ask the parents to identify themselves. Was she really under aged (unlikely if they allowed her to work in a pole dancing club), did you ask them what sort of proof they had of 'rape'. Something like that would be so unrealistic I would have gone along with it, acting naive, saying it would take a few days for the money transfer, then arranged to check out.
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written by Mike, Wed 01 Jul 2009 09:28:55 CDT
No, in this particular case, the girl didn't work, was 23, and had a child. The parents thought they could scare me into paying even though I'd never taken the woman anywhere. I demanded a rape test and the parents backed down and admitted I hadn't raped her, but had touched her arm, at which point the police claimed that was a felony in Thailand. They demanded 100KB. I live in Samui and have obvious wealth, so no chance of getting on a plane and leaving my possessions. My lawyer claimed that this scam has gone on for years and he had personally handled over 100 similar cases. I never paid and never heard from them again.
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written by baz, Tue 06 Oct 2009 13:52:56 CDT
we all have to learn how it works in thailand and some learn the hardway because they think they know it all before they go there, what ever the scams and the problems people have in thai it is still the best for me
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written by norway man, Fri 13 Nov 2009 18:43:50 CST
This is them work,,You want to bee good in you work?you need a good salary to life?
So this thailadys want also!!
If you belive in them Love you complet crasy.
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written by Swede, Sat 14 Nov 2009 11:38:49 CST
@norway man, please could you type out your comment again, but this time in coherent English?
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written by Kai, Tue 02 Mar 2010 12:19:04 CST
In some cultures (cough mine) if you take a girl out and do not return by night, then they (mom and dad) assume you both did the horizontal tango. Once you return by morning, you have to marry her or pay a fine, especially if she was a virgin. I know it seems backwards, but this is how it works in some cultures (not just mine)...especially those who don't believe (or comprehend) the wonders of DNA testing. Fortunately some countries have a system of due process (to a lesser extent in others) before judgement is passed...

However the story Mike tells above is clearly a scam, so good thing he was able to get a lawyer to help him out.
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written by Rich, Thu 20 May 2010 11:20:13 CDT
@Tomski, and there's no such thing as volcano dust either?
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written by Dean, Sun 24 Oct 2010 07:08:09 CDT
This scam is mostly used on Thai men, not happening so much with foreigners. It more common than you would think with Thai men.
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written by X-expateusa, Fri 26 Nov 2010 08:48:21 CST
My first trip to Bkk was similar and of course the lady I had corresponded with for 6 months before coming met me at Subummi(whatever-haha) The next day a tuk tuk dropped her and I at a jelwelry shop without asking. I just wandered around and looked and said , thank you...nice! and left. The tuk tuk was still waiting and we finally ended up at the Temple Wat Kings thingy we asked to go to. My question is, why didn't my o called Gf know why this tuk tuk dropped us there? She had lived and worked in Bkk for many years. She is 43 yrs old. ..She also had led me to believe she was never married and had no children. Ok ok, I find out she has a 16 yr old...ok, I understand she thought no one would give her the time of day if they knew. Ok, I forgive and understand. Now, I am told she loves me and will live anywhere in Thailand with me. Nowww, She says she wants to only live in Bkk by her daughter or Sukhothai with her parents. I always insisted I wanted to live in Chiang mai as there are adiquate medical hospitals and also not as congested as Bkk. If I stay in her Parents house in Sukhothai It seems to always cost me alot more money considering her brothers asking for loans or what not reasons for money. My question to anyone is- If this lady truly loves me then wouldn't it be normal for her to agree to live 300kilos from her family In Chiang mai with me if I can come half way around the world for her?.....

She does ask for yellow gold more then the normal and does not seems interested that I have obligations of a home and bills in America, only that I make blaa blaa so much money 120,000Bhat...big deal. She seems to think I an rich beyond belief. Her brother borrowed 11,000baht and said he would pay me back in 7 days...haha. I never have gotten a satang in 1 year.....and he has somehow been able to buy and new car. I am stuck being asked for bills for the family's old pickup truck that has been hocked 2 times and paid off once by me but now is another bill every month....I know I know....I have that "save a poor thai girl" syndrone.....I need to say goodbye if she won't agree to live where her husband wants...Yes?......any advice will be apreciated. I am at a point now that I won't go back unless this woman cares enough about me to live with me just 300kiklo's from Sukhothai with me where I can have a little privacy with my wife rather than having her whole extended family expecting me to pay for most everything including remodeling that house. I like my privacy and I don't like the idea of her father being king of my roast.....thanks for any future input/instinct.....thanks...
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written by Todd, Fri 26 Nov 2010 10:46:08 CST
At above, gee whiz! Cant you see there laughing at you? You need to cut your loses and leave before your sucked dry (money wise) or find yourself pushing up daisies. Take a look at

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanReadersSubmissions.htm

Youve been warned!
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written by Todd, Fri 26 Nov 2010 10:55:13 CST
By the way, do you honestly believes she LOVES you, what is that you have that other men dont?
Look at your marriage more as a business deal then anything else, sorry to be cruel, but this advice might just save you lot of PAIN and financial headache...
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written by norway man, Sat 08 Jan 2011 18:31:04 CST
You want to marrid a 50-60 year fat and old lady,look like you selfh!!
So why the thailadys want it?
You think them Love you?
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written by australian, Wed 12 Jan 2011 20:14:30 CST
mate if sum 1 is using u that much wake the f**k up money and love don't mix don't think she loves u she just loves more of your money then u she will continue ripping u off for as long as u r with her and her family will do the same thing as well and u r sorta a dumb ass as well
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written by Matt, Wed 26 Jan 2011 02:48:56 CST
@ harry: knowing the Thai calendar for working out ages on Thai ID cards is not as difficult as you imply. I'm sure many people on this forum know already, but for the uninitiated - just subtract 543 from the person's year of birth (for example, the date of this message is 26 January 2554). Not that I've ever had to do this... no, really. Please believe me :-)

@ Swede: I know how much you guys hate the Norwegians (and vice versa), but please don't be so condescending.
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written by X-pat, Thu 31 Mar 2011 13:03:46 CDT
My first trip to Bkk was similar and of course the lady I had corresponded with for 6 months before coming met me at Subummi(whatever-haha) The next day a tuk tuk dropped her and I at a jelwelry shop without asking. I just wandered around and looked and said , thank you...nice! and left. The tuk tuk was still waiting and we finally ended up at the Temple Wat Kings thingy we asked to go to. My question is, why didn't my o called Gf know why this tuk tuk dropped us there? She had lived and worked in Bkk for many years. She is 43 yrs old. ..She also had led me to believe she was never married and had no children. Ok ok, I find out she has a 16 yr old...ok, I understand she thought no one would give her the time of day if they knew. Ok, I forgive and understand. Now, I am told she loves me and will live anywhere in Thailand with me. Nowww, She says she wants to only live in Bkk by her daughter or Sukhothai with her parents. I always insisted I wanted to live in Chiang mai as there are adiquate medical hospitals and also not as congested as Bkk. If I stay in her Parents house in Sukhothai It seems to always cost me alot more money considering her brothers asking for loans or what not reasons for money. My question to anyone is- If this lady truly loves me then wouldn't it be normal for her to agree to live 300kilos from her family In Chiang mai with me if I can come half way around the world for her?.....

She does ask for yellow gold more then the normal and does not seems interested that I have obligations of a home and bills in America, only that I make blaa blaa so much money 120,000Bhat...big deal. She seems to think I an rich beyond belief. Her brother borrowed 11,000baht and said he would pay me back in 7 days...haha. I never have gotten a satang in 1 year.....and he has somehow been able to buy and new car. I am stuck being asked for bills for the family's old pickup truck that has been hocked 2 times and paid off once by me but now is another bill every month....I know I know....I have that "save a poor thai girl" syndrone.....I need to say goodbye if she won't agree to live where her husband wants...Yes?......any advice will be apreciated. I am at a point now that I won't go back unless this woman cares enough about me to live with me just 300kiklo's from Sukhothai with me where I can have a little privacy with my wife rather than having her whole extended family expecting me to pay for most everything including remodeling that house. I like my privacy and I don't like the idea of her father being king of my roast.....thanks for any future input/instinct.....thanks...
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written by Brad, Sun 22 May 2011 10:12:29 CDT
X-pat, wow, she loves you for your money ONLY! Sorry, read http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanReadersSubmissions.htm

and join the sucker club...
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written by Brad, Sun 22 May 2011 10:16:03 CDT
X-pat, did you not do any research before going to Thailand, her family will ALWAYS come before you, period.
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