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Written by Richard Barrow   
Saturday, 27 September 2008

Most tourist destinations around the world have their scammers. Thailand is no different. However, what is more tragic here is that Thai people are naturally very hospitable. They love playing the host and welcoming guests to their country. I am sure many of us have seen this generosity on long train journeys when families share their meals with you. At my school, we often have tourists visiting for a tour. The school administration always welcomes the visitors and even gives them presents. In the early days, when it was still a novelty, we even took them to local tourist attractions and paid the admission costs for these complete strangers. That is how generous Thai people normally are. But, it is unfortunate that once they start to have prolonged contact with foreigners, they begin to change. It is no longer "be our guest". They will lie, cheat and even blindly rob you into order to get as much money from you as they can.

We started the website www.BangkokScams.com in order to make people aware of some of the more common scams that take place in the Kingdom of Thailand. But, even we were overwhelmed by the large number of scams and comments that were being posted every day. These are not isolated incidents. Despite the warnings in guidebooks and in websites like ours, these scams are still happening. It is really tragic because some tourists get hurt so much that they will never return to Thailand again. Even worse, they will tell their friends to avoid our adopted country like the plague. I really feel sorry for the tourists who go to the Grand Palace on their last day only to be told by scammers that the palace is closed. I was there the other day with my sister and her family and we were told several times that the Grand Palace, Wat Pho and Wat Arun were all closed on that day. They said that it was our lucky day as they knew a temple called the Big Buddha which was open. What they didn't mention was that they would drag us to a gem store where we would get a hard sell to buy worthless gems.

To help you be more street savvy on your next holiday in Thailand, we have decided to put together a top 10 of scams in Thailand. It is by no means definitive. If you have any scams that you would like to report, then please post them at www.BangkokScams.com.

1. The Grand Palace is Closed Scam - This scam can happen near any tourist attraction but still happens a lot outside the Grand Palace. As you approach, someone will tell you that the palace is closed for various reasons. Ignore them as you will end up in either a gem store or a tailor shop.
2. Thai Gem Scam - If you are not an expert on gems then I strongly urge you not to take the word of other people on how much money you can make if you sell these gems on return to your home country. People are losing a lot of money every day. Don't make the mistake that you are different.
3. Wrong Change Scam - A common scam at places like 7-Eleven and Family Mart in tourist areas is to give you change as if you gave them a 500 baht note instead of a 1,000 baht note. Many tourists are not familiar with Thai money and often give the wrong money or don't notice that their change is incorrect. Most shops will say out loud the denomination of any paper money you give them. Check your change!
4. Jet Ski Scam - Many people in Pattaya and Phuket are being scammed after renting jet skis. When you come back after your fun, they will point out scratches and dents in the jet ski and they will demand large sums of money. What they fail to mention is that a dozen other customers have already paid for those scratches. If you rent anything, be it motorcycle, car or jet ski, make sure all scratches and dents are documented.
5. Patpong Sex Show Scam - Don't believe the touts outside who say free sex shows and drinks for only 100 baht each. You will end up paying a bill in the thousands. Stay clear if you are alone as they can turn violent if you refuse to pay.
6. Hualamphong Scam - Outside the train station you will meet official looking people who will say they will help you book the seats. They take you to their nearby travel agent and pretend to ring the train booking office. They then say the train is full and your only way to travel is on one of their buses.
7. Long Distance Bus Scam - Many people have had things stolen from their bags on overnight bus trips. Some have even reported they were drugged and found their money missing when they woke up.
8. Airport Taxi Scam - Official looking touts will pretend that they are meter taxis and tell you that it is 500-1000 baht to go into town. The meter taxi outside is less than half this. The police have tried to crack down on them but they are back. Ignore anyone who asks if you want a taxi. The real taxi drivers are waiting outside by their cars.
9. Blackjack Scam - This usually starts when someone asks you where you are from. If you say, New York, then he will say he has a sister who will be going to study there. He then asks if you can go and meet her as she has some questions. At their house, you somehow end up playing blackjack with them. They then ask you to help cheat someone out of their money. Don't get tempted as it is you who is being scammed.
10. My Girlfriend is Pregnant Scam - A popular scams these days is your long distance girlfriend writing to you to say she is pregnant with your baby. She either asks for help to pay for the aboriton or for money to raise the baby. What she doesn't tell you is that she has already written to five other foreigners telling them that they are the father too. The latest gimmick is some medicine circulating in Isaan that swells their belly to make them look pregnant in case you fly in to visit them. The only way to know for sure is to go with them to the doctors to get an ultrasound.

Please remember, most scammers are successful because they play on the greed of their victims. If something is too good to be true then it probably is. As kind as Thai people are, they are also very shy. If you are approached by a well spoken Thai person on the street then the chances are high that this person is a scammer. Thai people are not normally so forward. However, please give them the benefit of the doubt unless, of course, they give you the codeword "Big Buddha" or "Lucky Buddha". This is then their admission of guilt. Finally, it is sad to report that there are now foreigners praying on helpless tourists. So, be weary of any unsolicited help.

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written by bobby, Sat 27 Sep 2008 11:41:17 MDT
I've fall for Airport Taxi scam the first time around, and live to experience Grand Palace and PatPong Sex show scam but manage to escape !
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written by Saija, Sat 27 Sep 2008 12:44:38 MDT
I was given 1000 Baht less in change by the bus terminal cashier. We have just flown to Bangkok (old airport) and drawn money from ATM, which gave us 10.000 Baht notes. Then we took an airport bus to the city Eastern Bus Terminal. We purchased the bus tickets to Pattay and I paid with the 10.000 Baht note and was given a "wrong" change back. I only realised the mistake afterwards when counting my monies. ALWAYS count the change when you receive it.
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written by MIKEY, Sun 28 Sep 2008 06:05:35 MDT
my daughter and I came to bkk to visit family ( my daughter is adoped thai)


at the airport one of the taxi (mafia) told us we could get mini van to home for 200 bt. ( it was late at nite, and I did not chaange my us $$ too thai bt) so I gave them a $50 usd, and got change in thai bt.

when we were waiting in the mini van to leave, I noticed we were short the equivlent of $20 usd. I complained to the driver and the other person that took us to the mini van, but they acted if they could not understand what I was saying.

I told my daughter in a low voice ( but enough for them to hear) "dont worry, I gave them a fake $50 usd bill.

in less than 2 minutes the person that has shortchanged us was there demanding to have the money change reversed. I gave them back the remaining bt, and got the $50 back.

( took the time to change it at the exchange booth and get a taxi to home for just under 200 bt)

seems we outsmarted the crooks this time.
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written by Lydia, Sun 28 Sep 2008 07:42:21 MDT
Went into a small local shop in Chang Mai, bought a few items price came to 120bhts., handed over 500bhts. Shopkeeper (with a smile) she made a big play off handing me 4x20bhts in notes as change. Her problem was I have been going to Thailand for 10yrs and so know the money,my 1st time in her shop so she thought I did not know what I was doing. So always check your change as you would at home!!
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written by mick, Mon 29 Sep 2008 04:53:36 MDT
well done Mikey. we can all learn from that.
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written by Bill, Mon 29 Sep 2008 07:40:41 MDT
I was approached by a girl at a shopping center and she wanted me to meet her family.I am a retired street cop and didn't have anything to do and wanted to see what kind of scam she had in mind.We took a taxi to see her "brother".I first noticed he had a poorly fixed broken hand(old break),he then told me he wanted to get even with someone by beating him in blackjack and would I help him cheat a friend.I thought he didn't learn much when they broke his hand before.
With some quick lessons and bad acting the friend showed up for a brief appearance and left.The friend had glasses and a brief case,the glasses didn't look right(cheap and clear glass).He was suppose to look like a patsy,when the friend left I told the guy "this is a scam" he said of course we are going to get him.I said no you are trying to scam me and I could beat the shit out of both of you,I suggest you screen your victims better.I then left and laughed all the way back in the taxi.I was out a couple of bucks for a taxi but it was worth it.
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written by Victor, Mon 29 Sep 2008 12:15:04 MDT
Saija,

FYI, Thailand does not have 10000 Bahts banknote, the lagest being 1000, then 500, 100, 50 ,20, and 10 Bahts. Something doesn't add up in your story, I think.
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written by Harry, Mon 29 Sep 2008 14:59:21 MDT
I was scammed in the third flloor show in Nana (I know what do you expect ) but thought it would be useful so others don't fall for it. I had a few beers while watching the show with my daughter and her boyfriend. Whenever I ordered a beer I checked the chit to make sure the price was right. When we wanted to leave I added up the chits which came to 550 baht so I but a 500 baht note and 50 baht note in the small holder and gave it to one of the girls. We then went to leave and the mama san ran over and said I had put 2 x 50 baht notes in the holder and owed them 500 baht,(she gave me my 50 baht note back). I told my daughter and her boyfriend to go and get aq policeman and then sat back and watched the scam unfold. I just refused to pay and sat outside and after about 20 mins a person arrived who said he was a policeman and showed an official looking card. I knew he wasn't a policeman but was waiting for my daughter to return with a real one. After about 45 mins she came back and said the real policce were not interested and so I knew my goose was cooked. I paid the 500 baht and put it down to experience. I was threatened but by not reacting it just remained as words.

Lesson is, if you want to go to Nana make sure you show the girl exactly what you have given her and witnesses if possible. In spite of this it is still a cheap night out with some fun and not like the real rip offs back in Soho. Enjoy.
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written by Jo, Mon 29 Sep 2008 18:01:45 MDT
We were scammed with the sapphire scam, having visited the grand temple - we were lucky that we checked company on internet, the next day we went to the tourist police and were able to get 75% of our money back. Interestingly on the way to the police station, the tuk tuk driver insisted the station would be closed. A little wiser we ignored him. A valuable lesson. I have to say that it did colour my impression of the country and not sure I would return again - though the temples are just fabulous it made me feel that I could take nothing at face value.
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written by jc, Tue 30 Sep 2008 18:43:15 MDT
Keep an eye out dodgy petrol pump attendants, especially on motorway service stations. Along with trying to shortchange (they've tried it on with me 4 or 5 times over a 6 month period last year but i always made sure to check), they don't reset the meter and you end up with a 2- 300 baht overcharge. When they see farang they make a big play to get you to a particular pump. The first time they tried it on i refused to believe the cost for filling the car so he then tried to say the machine was broken and asked how much was i prepared to pay. The 2nd time I was caught out. Came back from vacation and anticipated a price rise, but the bill was still more than i had expected. Needless to say next time i filled up it was much cheaper. So lesson is make sure you see them reset the meter !
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written by Dingo Dumley, Wed 01 Oct 2008 07:21:05 MDT
Mate ill give you 1 tip to avoid getting scammed in thailand JUST DONT GO......
After reading all the things on this site i am not sure if i should cancle my trip. place just sounds nasty and all i read here is scams scams scams from the minute you get out of the airport. so why Bother going.
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written by Marcus, Wed 01 Oct 2008 09:08:56 MDT
I would suggest that the author of these scams has been set up. Most of these quotes are coming out of places like Pattaya and Phuket - sex tourists and yes you will bump in to the odd deceptive Thai. The other 100 destinations in Thailand are free of that kind of behaviour so simple, try to avoid the undesirables, both Western & Thai and your holiday will be better for it. Long distant bus ride. Mmmm. That could have happened in any Country. As for the Blackjack scam, that's just the most crazy story and whoever fell for that one deserved what he got! Dingo Durnley, don't just take the view of a few people here. Come talk to the rest of us who love this Country.
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written by Henry Whitehead (Sydney), Wed 01 Oct 2008 10:33:33 MDT
It seems all you want to do here is focus on negative's hence making people afraid to travel to Thailand, Iam sure many people have been put off from what they read. Yes it is important to warn other people but this is starting to get outrageous.
Maybe a section on some nice stories might do the trick and some nice pictures of good places to see in Thailand.
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written by liz, Wed 01 Oct 2008 19:07:42 MDT
I appreciate the efforts of the people who made this site to let us aware of the scams that might have occured during our stay here in Thailand. Actually, its not just in Thailand that things like these happends. That is why, in one way or another knowing about scams helps us to be cautious. Personally, I like Thai people and the place as well and I would love going back here if there'll ever have a chance. Although the last time my friends and I went to MBK and while on our way back to our friend's hotel in Radisson, a cab driver had offered us to have a tour on a Gem store. He said we might have interest on something to buy while he will be getting his gasoline coupons. We have thought that it was just sort of advertising until I've read this site. Good thing, we didnt bought anything from there. But we saw a lot of foreigners who seemed to be taking the bait (if that was really a considered a saphire scams).
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written by Bangkok Bill, Wed 01 Oct 2008 19:29:22 MDT
Scams are around all over the world,I have been in Thailand 20 years and walk the streets of Bangkok anytime day or night and nobody bothers me(hookers don't count),you can't do that in any of the large cities in the states.
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written by Whatever, Thu 02 Oct 2008 06:00:54 MDT
Thailand has the highest concentration of scammers anywhere on the planet. Even more than eastern europe, if you can quantify that sort of thing.
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written by MIKEY, Fri 03 Oct 2008 02:47:40 MDT
"Thailand has the highest concentration of scammers anywhere on the planet. Even more than eastern europe, if you can quantify that sort of thing."

not counting most countrys politicians of course? :)
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written by bard , Sat 04 Oct 2008 22:01:37 MDT
DOnt think or act like a tourist when you're in Thailand. Just observe the Thais and try to blend in . If you think like a typical tourist you will sooner or later be scammed.
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written by Paul, Sun 05 Oct 2008 02:04:41 MDT
I lived in Thailand for over six years, have been there a dozen times on holidays and have never been scammed.

When in tourist areas I have been approached like anyone else, by touts, taxi mafia, people telling me places are closed and so on. But this is routine in any third world country and done a lot less frequently, aggressively and competantly in Thailand than most other places.

If your a tourist and very naive you might lose 100B paying too much for a taxi or miss the grand palace oneday because you thought it was closed, you can chalk it up to experience and even laugh about it.

As conmen say, you can't con an honest man. You will only lose serious money in Thailand if you are out for something for yourself. Buying cheap gems to sell back home, looking for an 18 year old to marrry ugly you or helping con someone else at blackjack. If you're greedy don't be surprised when you wind up in a nest of greedy people eyeing you up.

Virtually every person I've ever met who's suffered in Thailand. From losing a few baht to a grafter to being jailed for 10 years on drugs charges has always at some point told me when I had asked them if they would be doing this back home, has said "the rules are different here." Well for the umpteenth time, no they're not. If you wouldn't do it at home, don't do it in Thailand, no-matter what anyone tells you.

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written by Going to thailand soon..., Sun 05 Oct 2008 12:17:57 MDT
Paul, that was very well put. Can't get anymore right than that!
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written by alex, Mon 06 Oct 2008 03:31:20 MDT
i agree with Paul
the rule number ONE - don't be so naive
(in any country)
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written by Todd, Wed 08 Oct 2008 14:32:05 MDT
I recommend everyone read this?

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/Reader2007/reader4672.htm
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written by DaleGardenne, Sat 11 Oct 2008 06:52:27 MDT
If these stories are making you scared to go to Thailand, I suggest you stay at home -- other countries in the region are much worse. Don't even *think* about going to Vietnam where they'll hassle you aggressively 24 hours a day...
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written by Scammed again, Sat 11 Oct 2008 08:44:38 MDT
The scams are everywhere these days. I used to promote Thailand but would not want my friends or family coming here without someone looking after them.

I met two tourists the other day. They had just arrived...and guess who they were talking to? The scumbag rip off Tuk Tuk driver at the top of my Soi.

This Tuk Tuk driver has been lying to and cheating tourists for years. I contacted the TAT about him. The TAT said to contact the Tourist Police. The Tourist Police says to go report him at Lumpini Police Station.
Now that is a problem since the Thai Police are corrupt to the core and hate foreigners..... would probably tip off the scammer, no?

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written by Scammed again, Sat 11 Oct 2008 11:06:39 MDT
TOURIST AUTHORITY Employees watch scammers cheating lost tourists!
Photo here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29324583@N05/2930069345/
The Silom Police Box is on this corner.
Disgusting.
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written by Ringo, Sat 11 Oct 2008 17:36:02 MDT
To Saija with reference to what he/she wrote on 27Sep, I would dearly love to see a thai 10,000 note !! as they only print up to 1,000 baht notes. ummmm .......
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written by SuckerTourists, Sat 11 Oct 2008 18:48:36 MDT
Feel like a relaxing holiday?
Then don't go to Thailand.
Because daily you will either be ripped off or you will be uptight about the possibility of being ripped off.
Ripped off by the fruit seller.
Threatened with a knife by the durian fruit seller,a female.
The female butcher will put your bare meat on to the dirty scales instead of putting the meat in a plastic bag first.Just to insult foreigners,who she hates.
Another female butcher will charge 90 Baht for half a kilo of meat, when the meat costs 90 baht a kilo.
When your daughter is walking alone down the stairs,the female guest house cleaner will follow her and push her down the stairs.
Pay your guest house for the night, then leave in the morning and then get asked to pay ,again, by the female guest house owner.
Pay another guest house for the night, then leave in the morning and then get followed down the road,being told to pay for the previous night,by the female owner.
And on and on it goes.
The land of smiles ... and liars and knife threats...and...
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written by Fact~O, Sat 11 Oct 2008 22:12:56 MDT
go to Betty Boops in south
go to Nana

these dives not only carry disease but your money disputes usually have you ended up in the hospital with a smashed head especially when most clubs have 3-4 motor bike taxi drivers in back waiting to be paid to kick your white azz and don't even bother to call police .they will be of zero help. Most Thai are puzzys when in fights with outsiders your usually battle 3-4 of them at one time.

DONT HANG OUT ALONE.. Safety is in Numbers as they do.

BEST ADVICE STAY OUT OF THIS FILTH IN 1ST PLACE.

USE YOUR FUKING HEAD

Betty Boops is FAMED of these white boy azz whooping when a bar fine is paid the girl disappears and you complain to management then out comes the boys ..Police arrive to pick you up out back and take ya to the hospital for stitches.Don't think for one second these people give a dayum about you , its all about your wallet no matter what it takes to get into it.

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written by Edwin Wiek, Sun 12 Oct 2008 12:12:47 MDT
Lived here for 19 years and feel got not cheated too many times. BUT... last week I wanted to fill up my car with fuel at a fuel station and asked them to put in 2,000 Baht. The guy asked me if I wanted a bill? I said no. Went to the 7-eleven at the station and returned within 5 minutes. When I looked at the counter it wss on zero again, paid anyway and wanted to leave after paying the 2,000. Somehow I felt something was wrong so dediced to ask for a bill from the cashier anyway. Got it, for a thousand only... Check the meter at the gas station before paying, if you have to walk away from the car while filling up...
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written by Phillip.Jacob, Mon 13 Oct 2008 04:35:51 MDT
written by Ringo, Sat 11 Oct 2008 17:36:02 MDT
To Ringo with reference to what he/she Sat 11 Oct 2008 I would dearly love to see a thai 10,000 note !! as they only print up to 1,000 baht notes. ummmm .......

WHEN I WAS IN THAILAND I HAD MANY 10 000 BAHT NOTES WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY DONT PRINT THEM???
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written by Scammed again, Mon 13 Oct 2008 12:00:27 MDT
We should mention the outrageous gouging of tourists at Thai Boxing Stadium.
They sneakily put the Thai price in Thai script only so the guests don't know they are paying 8X the local rate.
This gives visitors a bad feeling. Seems every we go, we are getting gouged.


Thais pay 230THB to enter.
Tourists pay 1500-2000THB.
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written by Theo, Mon 13 Oct 2008 21:16:08 MDT
Mr Jacob, you had many 10000 bath notes in your wallet during your stay. Probably not a cheap holiday. Usely the atm will give you 10 notes of 1000. To get 10000 notes you must have been redrawing a lot of money from your bank. What have you been doing? Hope you didnt buy gemstones, gold chaines for strange ladies, or houses in the Esan, car for your new Thai family. motorbikes for her brother etc Usely I dont carry around so much cash in Thailand. Hairdress 100 bath food 400 bath a day beer 200 bath a day hotel 500 bath (with airco) and very clean. Well I stay away from the ladies as much as possible or only for one night. That way it stays cheap. Thailand is cheap. Thai people are expensive friends or girlfriends
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written by joe, Thu 16 Oct 2008 01:11:37 MDT
ah the blackjack scam , yes they tried to scam me on this one, philipinos were behind it in Bangkok.
they were watching an ATM in silom road ,then this guy comes up and says he has a beautiful nurse sister who wants to work in London. we go off to this house in the suburbs and a beer was onto the table and the cards came out . He says i work in a casino and we want you to keep winning there and take the winnings out then share it amongst us all.
i saw what was happening and ran out of the house quickly .
i had read of a similar scam before. lucky escape .
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written by joe, Thu 16 Oct 2008 01:21:20 MDT
the cop shake down scam >>>

http://www.thai360.com/fbb/showtopic.php?tid/529745/
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written by biggmatty, Sun 19 Oct 2008 05:48:28 MDT
what a fantastic country......land of smiles and scams..with the best room service in the world.
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written by Theo, Sun 19 Oct 2008 08:16:13 MDT
Tuk tuks are just as expensive as a taxi meter. But Tuk Tuks offer no comfort at all. Only comfortable gemshops with frienly Thai. One tuk tuk ride in the healthy Bangkok air is like smoking ten sigarets . In case you stopped smoking, dont go to Bangkok at all. One day in Bangkok is like smoking two packs of sics. At least taxis have airco. The question is if they clean the filters. Best thing is to avoid that hyper polluted city of course. Unless your tired of life. In that case one can shorten his live by going to live there.

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written by Peter Emanuelsson, Sun 19 Oct 2008 14:28:00 MDT
Mr/Mrs Saija and Mr Jacob:

www.thailandlife.com/thaimoney.html

Once again: there are no 10,000 Baht notes!
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written by Gaz.., Mon 20 Oct 2008 02:31:03 MDT
10000baht notes dont exist..but what i have seen is a stupid farang complaining in 7-11 that he gave the staff a "10000"baht note and had been short-changed....IDIOT~!!
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written by Phillip.Jacob, Mon 20 Oct 2008 09:02:02 MDT
i have had 10 000 baht notes. this is crazy.
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written by Theo, Mon 20 Oct 2008 11:26:25 MDT
There are 10000 baht notes, but they are fake. You got scammed
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written by stevew, Mon 20 Oct 2008 17:14:33 MDT
there are NO! 10000 baht notes in thailand,maybe tou thinking about cambodian or vietnam currencies .
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written by Theo, Mon 20 Oct 2008 21:44:09 MDT
In case one has to be hospitalised in Thailand insurance companies here want to within 24 hours in witch hospital you are. Newspapers here have written about srewed up bills made up by some hospitals. They might even charge you for toiletpaper. They might take your temperature and put it on the bill etc.
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written by bundy, Tue 21 Oct 2008 07:00:38 MDT
Its no problem to live in Bangkok as a white foreigner and without getting scammed.
I rented an apartment there, I buy my food and clothes at the markets , I never experienced any scams . Just use common sense and never talk to too friendly english speaking thais.
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written by Tourist, Tue 21 Oct 2008 08:12:24 MDT
Never talk with too friendly Thais?
Now that is a shame but also too true.
Better yet, avoid Thailand until the get an honest Police Force that can deal with this crap.


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written by Theo, Tue 21 Oct 2008 10:19:57 MDT
My mother used to tell my little sister not to pay attention to strangers talking to her in the street.
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written by Colin, Tue 21 Oct 2008 16:47:33 MDT
I'm a Bangkok expat, and I honestly cant understand why people think of Bangkok the way they do; there's no difference between this town or any other big town in Europe, Asia or US for that matter. Taxi drivers will try to scam you in every city in the world.

As for the sex show scams and other tricks related to activities of similar kind; if you're not clever enough to make sure you dont end up seeing your money fly, stay out of filthy places that advertise women playing ping-pong using nothing but with their private parts.

The one scam that really should be on the list is the Grand Palace entry Ticket scam. Outside the entrance you will be approached by touts who informs you that you need a ticket and that you need to buy the ticket "over there". These tickets are not real tickets. The REAL tickets are sold inside the palace itself.
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written by Dave, Tue 21 Oct 2008 20:36:07 MDT
Theo - in Bamgkok Pattaya Hospital you are charged 20 baht each time you say hello to a nurse and she answers you. Also if you enter the reception they will put you into a wheelchair which adds 100 baht to your bill whether you need it or not.
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written by Theo, Tue 21 Oct 2008 21:44:54 MDT
Yes but when I poor Thai goes to a state runned hospital often he or she is treated like sh. I visited one with a Thai girlfriend.As I dont like to spent money on women we went there. No privacy. Dirt everywhere.More like a prison than a hospital Not many 20 bath hellos either. In the Esan I have seen even worse. Severly ill patients having to wait all day in the passage or outside. When the doctor saw me he didnt want to help her at all. Just gave her rude answers. Probably he didnt understand her to come there. A falang can give her money for a better hospital. Well I took her to a private one, and like you said Dave, polite, quick, big smiles, big bills. Allthough I have to admit compared to Amsterdam still very cheap.
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written by Theo, Tue 21 Oct 2008 22:43:48 MDT
Dave that wheelchairride is more expensive than a taxi. Didnt the nurses wheel you to a nearby gemshop? Or is there one in the Bangkok Pattaya hospital?
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written by jojo, Wed 22 Oct 2008 06:11:17 MDT
LOS is killing itself as a tourist country! phuket being the biggest gravediggers....
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written by Andy, Wed 22 Oct 2008 11:19:17 MDT
I agree with jojo, I just returned from Phuket, patong beach, and the tailor shops are a nightmare, you have to literally fight these guys off, even when you say no they grab you and try to get you in to there shop, and the tuk tuk drivers are just a constant annoyance. Me and my girlfriend spent 2 weeks being annoyed in Phuket. We will never visit again or reccomend any of our friends to visit. Phuket is lovely but the way it is run is crap. Nevr again.
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written by Dave, Wed 22 Oct 2008 21:05:54 MDT
I've also been to a government hospital in Surin - beds in corridors and no privacy. Best described as a football changing room AFTER a match !!
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written by Theo, Wed 22 Oct 2008 21:20:13 MDT
Now they crucify Tarksin for the corruption sins of Thailand. Like Jesus, somebody has to be loaded with the guilt of the world, in this case with the guilt of Thailand. As if he is the only one. Putting him to prison is a deed of corruption by itself, because the people acting may be even more corrupt.
Speaking to a Thai here who is obivous a Tharksin man,
he explained me that most of the people now demostrating in the streets of Bangkok probably get paid 50 bath and a free yellow T shirt.
Thats the way they always organise that kind of manifestations he explained
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written by Theo, Wed 22 Oct 2008 22:54:40 MDT
I have heard other stories about hospitals too. Dont know if they are true. Second hand info. I was told about falangs trying to bring severly sick or severly hurd by accident Thai people to a hospital in their car. No aquaintances but complete strangers. The Thai victim often unconsious and not having insurances cards on them was refused in most hospitals unless the falang would pay ahead a lot of money for somebody he doesnt even know.
So the falang ends up driving all over Bangkok for hours trying to get rid of the victim. In case he ends up with a dead body he might be in serious trouble too.
Once again: Machiavelli, It is dangerous to be good in a bad world
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written by steve , Fri 24 Oct 2008 02:29:08 MDT
hi its easy justed take out what you can afford to lose ,been to thailand lots off time ,drink from bottle and have fun ,lol manilla much more dangerous ,
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written by Roberto, Mon 27 Oct 2008 14:06:01 MDT
I agree that tuk-tuks are possibly the biggest nuisance in Bangkok and they tend to be even more expensive than metered taxis. Don't bother taking them. The drivers will make you feel like you are riding a roller coaster, it can be a very dangerous and scary experience. If that wasn't enough, the alarming pollution levels of Bangkok will make you sick!

As for motorcyle taxis (they are available all over the city) I strongly advise anyone not to use the services of the motorcycles stationed on the corner of Sukhumvit and soi 26. I gave the driver a 50 Baht note to pay for a 20 Baht ride and as I got off the motorcyle and handed him the note he ran away in less than a second without giving me my change back! If you use motorcycle taxis, please do yourself a favour and give them the exact amount to pay for the ride.
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written by Alex, Mon 03 Nov 2008 03:17:17 MST
I have lived in my different parts of Thailand, over 2.5 years, had never any problems, you just need to blend in a bit, and its all good
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written by rosco from DownUnder, Tue 04 Nov 2008 04:20:19 MST
Thai's are buddist, love there King and most are very respectable ppl. If you travel anywhere in the world with your eyes closed then expect something to happen.....


Just a mental note " Tourist area's rely on Tourist Money"...just dont go to these hotspots or better still stay home and put all your money under your bed for safe keeping.
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written by Theo, Tue 04 Nov 2008 21:33:14 MST
I am only watching the game, controling it
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written by Pat, Thu 06 Nov 2008 10:18:50 MST
Thailand is a magical place, nowhere else in the world like it. Thais naturally are kind hearted people. It is cheap price to pay for such exprience. That's hard to beat. Anyone should go to visit Thailand if they can afford it.
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written by Khun Luck, Thu 06 Nov 2008 13:45:51 MST
Yes, so many friendly people, hanging out, just looking to help a lost tourist.
Very kind.
Pictures of them can be seen here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=676476&page=6
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written by ha ha , Thu 06 Nov 2008 18:11:14 MST
yes we love ing to help you..we waitng all day to see you.. should not put this picture on here not smart people dum
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written by Groome, Fri 07 Nov 2008 13:32:22 MST
Haha - It's time for school again! Don't forget to remind your parents to make a donation to your non-corrupt school. They've been waiting all day to see you and I'm sure you'll pass your exams.
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written by Richie, Wed 12 Nov 2008 21:44:04 MST
Remember to have plenty of small notes to avoid the I have no change scenario in taxis hoping theyll get the 100, 500 or 1000 that you do have for the 50 baht fare. Tip when its justified and reward good service of course but always stiff the scammer.

Sometimes the taxi drivers genuinely have no change on them if its the beginning of the shift but some of course play on this fact to con you out of your hard earned.

If you feel that you have been cheated when you get out leave the door open haha!
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written by Michael, Fri 14 Nov 2008 06:45:41 MST
This is my 10th year going back to thailand with my thai wife and 2 children. I have been pulled over numerous times at checkpoints and have never paid a dime. I have met very nice police in thailand, i try to speak thai and respect them, I am away with a laugh and a smile. I had a friend loose his passport and 500$ cash at the market in chiang mai, he was bummed until the next night ,we walked through the market and a vendor chased him down giving every dollar and the passport back. Try nepal or india or cambodia or vietnam then tell me thailand is full of scammers. The first couple of years I would be approached at the tourist areas with the usual, but I must have a look now-probably that I dont look lost. I feel very comfortable in thailand, dont let a few baht ruin your trip or visit. My favorite is the tourist arguing and getting angry because the vendor wont drop 10 baht(about 30 cents). I have always gotten correct change, for ten years, not to say it wont happen in the future. I do not frquent the the bar areas but have a friend who does(for a few years) and he says never a problem. The only time I got scammed in thailand was a farang who was "late getting my pension check-I changed banks" , I had known him for a few weeks-I was out 200$-lesson learned.
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written by Reg, Thu 20 Nov 2008 16:29:07 MST
"Thailand is a magical place"

Pat, please could you define the word MAGICAL?
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written by harry, Fri 21 Nov 2008 00:29:10 MST
I have been close to being scammed on the Blackjack scam. this man who was half Thai and Pilipino said his sister is going to London (not far from me) and he asked if I want to go to the house for lunch so I agreed to meet him the next day as I was walking to sala daeng near the sky train his cousin said hi and asked me to go to meet there family but she was just after a free taxi ride I think that was there motive which cost 200b and I met this guy the next day he had my number I went to where he claimed his sister lived which was north of lad prow somewhere and his father said all this ball shit about him working on a cruise liner that leaves Pattaya that night and he had a free Vip ticket and told me about how easy it is to fool some your opponent at blackjack then told me to be an engineer and told me a rich business woman is coming. Then this woman (probably related to this scammer) came in who spoke good English like the family started playing with $200 they gave me. And I was winning until they told me to bet higher. I don’t gamble I just went along with what they said because I didn’t just want to leave so fast because they gave me a drink. But I left when they tried to get me to put my own money down after I used all the $200. for some reason when I left the guy I originally met came with until I went into the MRT station may be he was making sure I don’t memorize his address because gambling is illegal in Thailand especially if it’s not licensed so if you’re in Mc Donald’s Silom where I was when I met him and asks you to go to his house say you’re busy. I think he will also try to use you to get a free taxi ride as well. He said he worked at Bangkok’s international airport i don’t know if it is true.
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written by Charlie, Fri 21 Nov 2008 17:21:31 MST
there is a scam that is very serious in nature that no-one has mentioned and it applies to those of you who have your own transport i.e. pick-up,car, motorbike.
i served 25 years as a firefighter in the UK and the rules of my life were to save life at any cost until i came to retire in Thailand in 2003.
i bought a pick-up and travelled the length and breadth of the country, however i came across an accident whereby someone was seriously injured. i was shocked to hear my Thai girlfriend telling me that i was to ignore the incident and drive away as fast as i could from the scene.
i questioned her about this, she informed me that it would be me who would be the guilty party in an accident that i wasn't even involved in. Just so that the family of the victim could demand money from me as a farang.
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written by Zarnehein, Sat 22 Nov 2008 10:13:27 MST
lived here for 6 years happily.If you are smart, you will be happy when u leave.Don't count 100 baht which you had to pay extra for taxi. Think about hotel room service,, good food in a thai neighbourhood,,cute thai girls(not hookers) can be caught at bed supperclub or club astra.come to bangkok dogs
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written by theo, Sat 22 Nov 2008 12:54:29 MST
Charlie True mr Charlie. Many people and even books warn you for that. I was sitting in a bus in the north of Thailand. Two falangs on a motorbike and aThai car nearly upside down in a ditch. The falangs tried by signals to stop cars and to stop the bus for help. Appar antly the cardriver was badly hurd and couldnt get out of the car. They were ignored by the busdriver and other passing cars. This really showes Thai mentality. Makes it even more dangerous to drive in Thailand!
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written by Cate, Sun 23 Nov 2008 22:00:35 MST
Hows this for a reverse scam. Falang and taxi driver team up for the morning. Drive to as many gem shops/tailors as possible.Falang does 5 minutes shopping in each store. No sales but taxi driver gets some payment as usual. Money split 50/50
Everyone happy.
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written by mikey, Sun 23 Nov 2008 23:10:50 MST
Cate

sounds clever until the gem shop owners start to chat later, then too bad for the team
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written by kugan, Mon 24 Nov 2008 04:33:24 MST
I have been to thailand many times,it's seems we all have the same experience in land of smile.
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written by theo, Mon 24 Nov 2008 06:12:27 MST
Everyone happy exept the shopowner. Did this once. Visited one shop an got a long ride for 20 bath. But many shops? All those boring pushers? Money split. May be something for backpackers and other vagabonds in need of money.
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written by theo, Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:07:00 MST
At your homepage there is a shop with a strange hairdressers
pricelist. Children, monks and nuns 20 B. Farang monks and nuns?
I cannot remember anyway having seen a monk at a haircutshop. The haircutting at the initalisation rites is done by other monks. Anyway, 20b is, in case it happens another rip of, because with an electric racer I would have the job done in 5 minutes. And like I said, why in english? Or is it that the pope has to pay 20b when he visits Thailand? Is it ment for catholics.
But may be I missed something in observing Thai culture and somebody can explain it to me.
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written by theo, Mon 24 Nov 2008 13:22:26 MST
Sorry I missed. Not a hairdresser but amansion Explains everything?
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written by harry, Tue 25 Nov 2008 09:07:19 MST
Make the Most out of this scam free Tuk Tuk rides. or cheap ...
free sight seeing. dont buy anything waste there time. the more people they see on to them the more it will upset them. pretetnd you want some thing and then just change your mind, it can be fun :P
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written by theo, Wed 26 Nov 2008 00:51:11 MST
It might indeed create a conflict between the Tuk Tuk drivers and the shopkeepers . Once the shopkeepers know they are victims of scamming by tuk tuk drivers. But as long as there are falangs buying it wont work.
When the shopkeepers have to pay more to the tuk tuks then they earn selling to the farangs t he scam will end. In every tourist guide book they should advice visit this site before visit Thailand. Usely the warnings concerning scams are in small print. It should be clearly written on the first page of the book.
But probably publishers dont want to disturb good relations with Thailand
The accent is put on the possitive aspects of Thailand.
It still is an interesting country to visit of course.
But as most people buy a tourist guide book before going to Thailand and still get ripped off I think warnings are not sufficiently made clear to the reader.
This is the main cause of all the scams as like I said most people will buy a lonely planet before going.
Warnings should be published on the first pages.
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written by Theo, Wed 03 Dec 2008 07:09:37 MST
Your holiday might be scammed away too like happens to many people right now because of the banana republic situation in Thailand! Now they finally leave the airport! But as the PAD said they might be back if things are not going the way the want them to go! Think of this before buying an airplane ticket to Bangkok
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written by Andy, Wed 03 Dec 2008 15:50:37 MST
Im currently in Thailand, it is not the land of smiles anymore, robberies maas prostitution and corruption, Im leaving first available flight out.
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written by theo, Wed 03 Dec 2008 17:58:21 MST
In fact there is only one main cause of all the problems you mention: They dont know how to run the country.
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written by theo, Thu 04 Dec 2008 01:01:53 MST
One can only feel sorry for the poor in Thailand. They are scammed continiously. More then we farangs. They thought they had a voice. Bangkoks scamming Chinese thai elite has won once more. Whats wrong with Chamlong? The Buddhist? He is defending the scammers? We have no reason to complain. We are not poor Thai rice farmers.
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written by theo, Thu 04 Dec 2008 01:59:33 MST
And isnt it a little bit childish to think we farangs would be treated different then the way Thais treat one another? Tarksin didnt pay tax on his telecom sale. Everybody scams everybody in Thailand. So why should an exception be made for us farangs? In Thailand everybody is a victem, thai or farang, who gives the others the change to scam him. Probably the tourist police had to pay to get the job. So why should they be straight? They want a piece of the cake like everybody else in Thailand.
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written by harry, Thu 04 Dec 2008 04:20:08 MST
what really happened to all the money each country donated to the tsunami appeal i dont think the poor thai's got it all maybe the greedy government kept it....
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written by Bruce of Samut Prakarn, Thu 04 Dec 2008 11:16:39 MST
Most tourists just don't seem to realize that if you don't live here and known what you're doing (local pricing) than you have already fallen victim to one of these scams. My advice for whatever its worth is that its unavoidable not to be scammed at some time or another and its best to make sure that you only loose pennies and not pounds. Loose a little not a lot.
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written by John, Thu 04 Dec 2008 19:07:54 MST
I cahed a travellers cheque today at a exchange booth in Jomtien, they short changed me by 500 baht,
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written by Sparkozy, Thu 04 Dec 2008 22:04:32 MST
One of the worst scams in Bangkok is the bleeding British embassy, which charges more than 1,000 baht for the ambassador's signature on a piece of paper.
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written by theo, Sat 06 Dec 2008 14:02:47 MST
A normal price. Also depends were the document is ment for. If it has something to do with bringing a Thai lady or man over they will charge a lot more. Formely one good marry a Thai and bring her over by paying something like 400 euro to immigration here, besides expensis like all kind of documents to have to be expensively signed by the consulate in Bangkok. Nowadays one has t count with about 8000 euro!! Immigration laws change rapidly. The girl has to learn dutch at the grooms expensis in Bangkok.
In Thailand one is not allowed to buy land. Buying women isnt a problem. Even the ones been to üniversity" are mostly jobless. They usely studied something in "tourisme" or "business" For what its worth. They can show you their papers but mostly cannot show you a job. If they have ajob its usely an underpaid job. Let be bargirls. Exporting them is good business for Thailand as they will scam their farang in europe by sending almost all the money the make working in restaurants i n europe to Thailand. They are hardly interested in investing their money earned in their European relationship. Strong euros. Often 500 to 1000 euro a month. Good export product! Overhere they have a slighty different opinion. Expensive import goods!!
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written by theo, Wed 10 Dec 2008 22:28:10 MST
What about visa prices? Overhere prices have gone up from 25 guiders=12 euro in 2001 to 30 euros now for a single enter. A double enter visum was 22 Euro. Now 60!!!!!!! Didnt know we had so much inflation here. Even here they scam us!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by John, Tue 16 Dec 2008 16:29:12 MST
Guy outside 711 on Soi 4 near Omni Tower last Sunday morning smiled at me and indicated I was very tall compared to him. He asked where I was from, I told him Ireland. Dublin he enquired, no Cork I replied. He told me he was from Chiang Mai.
He was dressed in smart casual and very plausible. He then told me his daughter was going to Dublin to study (what a coincidence) and could I give here some advice and information.
At this stage I knew that this was the prelude to the blackjack scam. As it happened I needed to get back to the hotel to pack my things as I was taking a taxi to Pattaya shortly. So I was able to inform him that I would love to offer her advice but I was leaving for Pattaya shortly. Big smile from the guy and pat on the arm as I left.
It just shows the brass neck of these guys. No doubt it did not take long for him to try again.
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written by sammie, Tue 16 Dec 2008 18:49:51 MST
Yes John, I understand this, the problem is we come from all over the world, some of us from cities where scammers, thieves etc are prevalent and some come from small towns and villages and havent been subjected to the nasties of this world. The latter are probably more suseptible to the scammers unfortunately.
I remember once, an english girl arrived on Koh Samet where I was staying with my husband and sons and she allegedly had her wallet and belongings stolen, we naturally felt very sorry for her and let her stay with us in our bungelow, she scammed us for our belongings which we found so unfortunate.... I have always held the motto help others where possible and hopefuly if my sons were abroad and in trouble someone would help them...i.e. karma..... to be scammed by a westener kind of hurt particularly one that was old enough to be my child lol would I do it again? probably, you cant be a cynic all your life lol
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written by scouse jon, Wed 24 Dec 2008 02:20:44 MST
watch out for the farang who come up to you in the street and ask you for a 100 baht to make a phone call home, they say they have been robbed by a girl the night before and need to get some money sent out to them. i fell for it only to be told by an expat that it's a scam. My luck changed when the same dickhead 6 weeks later had forgoten me and tried again, i grabbed him by the neck, then he rememberd me. I told him to empty his pockets or i,ll frog march him to the tourist police on sukumvit road, this happend outside the KFC by sio 1, i took 420 baht off the bastard. sum num nah/ serves him right.
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written by scouse jon, Wed 24 Dec 2008 02:25:08 MST
oh i forgot, happy xmas, and sanuck mak to all.
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written by sammie, Wed 24 Dec 2008 12:37:59 MST
pmsl Scouse Jon, was the differential a Christmas Tip per chance? pmsl pmsl
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written by jeffrey, Sun 28 Dec 2008 05:43:10 MST
what happend to my comment ?
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written by jeffrey, Sun 28 Dec 2008 05:56:13 MST
thai people are 99% sweet hearts and it is a bit of a happiness just for fun to pay the young pregnant street vendor 5x the price they are asking for and express that - this is for your baby . or just stop by her stall and give her a nice fruit drink . that smile on her face is worth more than money .it is a privilege to give something to make the world a better place . money is for giving happiness to others .
but be street wise and know that there are white and educated people today in the news on wall street doing billion $$$$$$$$$$ massive cheating scams
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written by Thaigirl Down under, Wed 31 Dec 2008 14:31:56 MST
Thank you!! Henry Whitehead and Rosco from Down under
I am Thai living in Australia for 20 years, so count me aussie :-)
Thailand still a nice country to visit and many good stories to hear.
Thank you this website to publishing the scams....... but please do remember Thailand is not just Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and Samui.....not just bars and girls.
Try country side and try to know local.
Most of us have a kind heart, we are Buddihism.
Sorry to every body who had been scamed in my country.
I think someone said if anything too good to be true then it's not good or should beware.
There are millions tourists visit Thailand every years and most come back again... so please don't let some groups of b...tards put you off.
Avoid anything free........free ride free drink
Avoid going to stranger's house at any curcumstand.......
Avoid The Black African too they are everywhere now............
BLACK MONEY SCAM
MONEY IN THE SUITCASE OR GOLD TO EXCHANGE WITH YOU CASH $$$$
DRUG RUN (please do not say yes or offer to carry anything to any one family you are carry DRUG)

This is my first visit to this website and hope more people get educated here.
K
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written by pighoglet, Wed 31 Dec 2008 16:29:41 MST
Thats great advice K. If tourists have the right idea then they will not fall for the scams and enjoy the great country that is Thailand. Thats why I go back every year with no problems and lots of great memories. R
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written by Theo, Wed 31 Dec 2008 21:14:25 MST
I visited the countryside. Showed some interest in the work of ricefarmers. It took aboute five minutes before they wanted money from me to buy Lao Khao
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written by sammie, Wed 31 Dec 2008 23:56:45 MST
K, I enjoyed the read, and take on board the message you are conveying, I think to mention black africans is slightly disconcerting, because even Australians scam (see gem section!) albeit I am most happily married to an Australian. Yes Thailand isnt Pattya, Phuket, Koh Sumui, but I am afriad the scams are happening in ChangMai, Nong Kai ( let us not forget the scam of a price for foreigner and a price for Thai, and please do not give me "the farang has more money lark" because I dont buy that!, the airports are ripping you off, the bus drivers and associates are aiding and abetting your luggage to be stolen, the list is endless. Yes I love your country, but I think people are becoming sick and tired of the "bottomless pit syndrome" and its time the was more forward thinking instead of the head in the sand!.
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written by sammie, Thu 01 Jan 2009 00:04:21 MST
*apologies time the Thais were more frward thinking instead of the head o the sand
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written by sammie, Thu 01 Jan 2009 00:05:43 MST
*apologies time the Thais were more forward thinking instead of the head of the head in the sand
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written by Laura, Thu 01 Jan 2009 06:27:05 MST
Marcus - definitely not true - myself and a friend got scammed by dodgy VIP buses in Phuket - we went to get a cab and it took us to a "travel agent" who helped organise us a hotel but at the expense of being tormented by her every day for the remainder of the trip. Also we had another "travel agent" who "organised" us a "trip" to an elephant ride which didn't include the price of the elephant ride itself. That doesn't even count being perpetually harassed by street hawkers, tailors, the usual well spoken folks in touristy areas etc. Samui had far fewer scammers though, and far less pestering on the street than other places.
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written by Jack, Sat 03 Jan 2009 09:07:36 MST

"Avoid The Black African too they are everywhere now.."

Thaigirl Down under, I'm an Aussie, and I'm totally shocked and sickened by your racism! I bet you plaster your face with skin lightening creams, morning noon and night?
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written by Karen Gibson, Sat 03 Jan 2009 09:14:39 MST
"This is my first visit to this website and hope more people get educated here"


Thaigirl Down under, educated by you, ha, ha, ha!

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written by sammie, Sat 03 Jan 2009 11:55:07 MST
Well said Jack and Karen, even the under arm deodorant contains lightening cream fgs!! lol lol
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written by Down from Under, Sun 04 Jan 2009 03:35:53 MST
Avoid Blacks at all costs
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written by Theo, Sun 04 Jan 2009 06:06:41 MST
When in Thailand avoid Thais as much as possible. Stick to farangs, but even with them be careful. Your contacts wit Thais should be limited to restaurant waiters, hotelowners and staff, and taxidrivers. Better even to rent your own car or motorbike. This way you you might have a cheap holiday in Thailand
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written by sammie, Sun 04 Jan 2009 12:25:54 MST
down from Under (Thai!!!) I find your racisism dispicable, this site is about scamming....... people that scam you.... NOT the colour of your skin!!! If you are a Thai from Down Under, you had better watch your tongue, because racisism is not tolerated, those days have long gone, if your a true blue ozzie, may I suggest some more education for your naive, zenophobic, narrow minded brain!!!!.
Back to Scamming...... if your in a public ward in a hospital (you must leave your shoes outside) take them with you in a carrier bag, otherwise they will be gone, the same applies to temples as well, I have lost many a nice trainer/shoes outside of temples, and its a devil tramping around the markets to go and buy your shoes back!, not forgetting walking around with no shoes on is not a good feeling on the Bangkok streets.
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written by miguel, Mon 05 Jan 2009 18:09:57 MST
one has to remember that thailand is a third world country and that within the last decade the thais have become true masters of scams, i am at present writng a book on this subject, there is a lot of falang scammers out there too, if i told you some of the basic scams out there you would be rolling about the floor laughing, heres a few to start with: a falang goes to thailand for three months break, books into a cheap apartment and checks out the local bars, hes new and MARKED he meets a bar girl pays the barfine 200 bhat for the night and off he goes back to his room with his new girlfrien arm in arm. He falls head over heals for her and dicides the next day to buy her a mobile phone, they go to a shop the phones have no prices on them, but she tells him in her broken english i get you good plice tirak tirak means my darling, she then speaks in thai telling her friend to stick a 1000 bhat on the price they will share it later, then you buy her a top up, she then tries to top the phone up but it doesnt work, so you try, nope must be a fualty top up card but you cant get a refund, so you buy another and this time it works, shes just texted her sister the top up number, hey presto another 500 bhat. after 2 or three weeks she wants you to meet her family in the village, this is very honerable and means shes totally true to you. So you go to rent a motorbike, but wait she tells you the logic of renting a bike which could be dodgy, then asks you to work out how long your here for then does the equation that its cheaper to buy a bike and you will save money, very true, so you opt for the latter, brand new bike, off you go to the village. On arriving at the village you recieve a kings welcome, and trully fall in love with the whole situation, she treats you like a king. You leave after three days and go back to your apartment dizzy with love, a few days later your new motor bike gets stolen, you call the police report it but the documents were under the seat, unlucky. Then it comes to the end of your holiday and shes at the airport with you crying and all. Off you fly back to glumpy old england. You tell her to keep her phone on all the time and you will call her every day. dont forget to read part two of this true story as it costs him his life!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by Brad Stein, Mon 05 Jan 2009 23:39:06 MST
Down from Under, you are a funking arsehole.
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written by Gareth Hodsoll, Mon 05 Jan 2009 23:47:29 MST
Down from Under, you have some serious personal issues!
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written by Dutchy, Tue 06 Jan 2009 00:51:44 MST
Great web site. Anyone put off by the scams on here shouldn't travel. I've travelled a fair bit now and will be going to Thailand next, and have found the info here only helpful not discourging. I have been to some of the worst countrys for scams and done all the things they tell you not to do in the guide books and alot of things they don't even talk about and I have been scamed, ofcourse. But it's only a little money, they put up the challange and I lost, big deal I've still got all my body parts and haven't been threatend with my life, I've had some the most amazing expirences I've ever heard of and I wouldn't give it up for anything. So get smart and get out there!
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written by miguel, Tue 06 Jan 2009 06:09:16 MST
note the aussies have an issue here find the website udon thani and look for big aussies bar and read about the down under bully i live there he has got serious issues like the rest of you pows remember dick heads we put you on that island

and dutchy the next part of the story has a holland link to it, all i have written here can be checked out as i will supply the details at the end, i have no reason to lie here i have a stunning thai wife and three stunning daughters, married for five years, she has full british passport, but dont tell me i dont know the scams its taken three years to write about them, but if the aussies let me finish they will see the outcome is not only thai, the issues here are to be street wise. ITS THE JUNGLE
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written by sammie, Tue 06 Jan 2009 12:32:08 MST
Miguel? que???? didnt understand a word of what point you were trying to get across? who has issues? which island? down under? please elaborate
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written by miguel, Tue 06 Jan 2009 16:46:33 MST
i didnt understand the down from under bit assuming they were from aus sorry if i affended you sammie it wasnt meant, one has to understand though that its taken me five years to collect information travelling to every corner of the far east and have been scammed big time myself and have been taught many lessons the hard way, so all i am trying to do is to put it down for other people to read in my electronic book there will be attachments that one can read for your own judgements, it isnt however all bad most of it is good and honest things that has happenend to friends relatives and myself but it makes very interesting reading, my wife has a few of her own chapters in it as do my children. to follow...
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written by sammie, Tue 06 Jan 2009 17:30:45 MST
No worries Miguel, there is some disaster thai woman provlaiming to be from "down under" asking people to avoid "blacks" which I found very offensive, as did others. Any foreign travel stories are interesting Miguel maybe you should start your own site will make interesting reading, thats why I am an avid reader of Stickmans's site who writes extremely well, informative and doesnt mince words. cheers for now

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