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Undercover at the Airport
Written by Richard Barrow   
Sunday, 03 June 2007

One of the most common questions we have been receiving recently in our mailbox and at the ThailandQA.com forums is how to go from the new airport at Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya. I had been planning to pay a return visit to the airport ever since people have been telling us about the limousine scams. Basically, what happens is that when you pass through Immigration and Customs and come out into the arrival lounge, you are accosted by this mob of people who want you to take their so called taxi to your destination. If you ask about public taxis they often say that there isn’t any. Back in April, the Airport Authority of Thailand announced that they will move the public taxis up to the second floor so that it is on the same level as the arrival lounge. Also in the newspaper recently, there were reports of security cracking down on unauthorized tour agents at the airport. I decided to head over there this afternoon to do some undercover work for our sister blogs at BangkokScams.com. I wanted to know whether the situation had improved.

I dressed up to look like a passenger who had just gotten off the plane. I even took along a small backpack to complete the image of a tourist. When you come out of customs you have a choice of turning left or right. On both sides you will pass through crowds of waiting people. My plan was to go in one of these exits, walk around and then walk out the other exit to make it look like I had just arrived in Thailand. They have security at these exits and you are not really supposed to walk through. However, I avoided eye contact and just kept walking. Usually works. In this no-man’s-land I saw some new signs which clearly said which direction to go for public taxi, airport express and shuttle bus. I then walked out the opposite exit. To my surprise, there wasn’t one single taxi tout. There only people waiting were people holding signs with names on and members of the public. Looks like there had been a clean up after all.

There a number of different ways to go to Pattaya. I first wanted to check out the taxi. The newspaper had said that the public taxi would be moved to the second floor by now so I made my way outside. Straight away it was “Hello sir. Where do you want to go?” I said Pattaya and they replied, “No problem sir. Only 2,600 baht!” I told him that was expensive. I asked about the public taxis but he wasn’t interested to help. So, I just kept walking. The problem is, once you stop for one tout, then the rest of the vultures start to circle and swoop. The average price for the limousine service to Pattaya seemed to be about 1,400 baht. However, one shady guy went as far as 800 baht as I was walking away. I asked him why so cheap and he said that Pattaya was his home town and he wanted to go home!

Back inside the arrival lounge, I decided to ask for help. I knew of course that the public taxis were on the level below. But, I wanted to see how much help I would get. I went up to a security guard and asked him where the public taxis were. He correctly told me to keep walking towards the escalators and then go down to level one. At least one honest person. There were a few signs around pointing the way, but I still saw other tourists looking lost and trying to find their way. Downstairs I went up to the official counter for the public taxis. This is the place where you have to pay a 50 baht surcharge. I asked if I could go to Pattaya by taxi. He said yes and that it would be 1,400 baht. I said that was a bit expensive and could I go to Pattaya by bus. He said yes, but I would have to take a taxi into Bangkok first. I asked him if there was any buses to Pattaya from the airport. He again said no and that I need to go to Ekamai bus station. Of course that was a complete lie.

Again, I knew very well how to get to the bus terminal at the airport. But, I wanted to pretend I was a tourist fresh off the boat. Up in the arrivals lounge there were two signs for buses. One said “Airport Express” and the other “Airport Shuttle”. Not too clear which one is which. So, I went to the desk for Airport Express which is next to the taxi rank. They provide a bus service into Bangkok for 150 baht each. I asked the lady on duty where I can catch a bus to Pattaya. She said she didn’t know and suggested I asked the security guard. Which I did and he said I needed to get on the Shuttle Bus back up on level 2 to the bus terminal at the airport. So, up I went to the arrival lounge again and then outside where I had to deal with the limousine drivers again. At first they didn’t want to help me find the shuttle bus stop, but in the end they did help me. Actually, they are easy to find. There are stops at each end of level 2 and also in the middle.

The ride to the bus terminal only took about ten minutes. Make sure you take the express bus and not the ordinary one. The former is not only quicker but has room for your luggage too. At the bus terminal there were buses for destinations inside Bangkok and also other cities. Walk to the far end where you will see bilingual signs above the coaches. The orange ones are for other cities in the country. The ticket office there has a big sign for a company called The Transport Ltd. I asked about Pattaya and they told me there was a bus about to go in ten minutes. How much? Only 106 baht! A big difference to my first quoted price of 2,600 baht for a limo. They have buses going at 6.30 a.m., 9 a.m., 1 p.m., 5 p.m. and 8.30 p.m. I was about to walk away when I noticed another sign in the same window for a different company called Pattaya Bus. These had buses at 8 a.m., 11 a.m., 3 p.m. and 7 p.m. There is a 7–Eleven here if you arrive at the wrong time. I bought some hot dogs and sat and waited to see if the Pattaya bus would leave on time. While I waited, some public buses from Bangkok came and went. They were going to other destinations like Chonburi but I guess there would be some for Pattaya too. The disadvantage about these buses is that they all looked full. However, the private buses I mentioned before started at the airport and were empty.  I think if you have a two hour wait then don’t rush to buy your ticket from the private company. Wait and see if a public bus comes and then pay the driver.

So, not too many scams after all. To summarize, when you come out of customs and enter the arrival lounge, follow the sign to the lower level if you want to go to Pattaya by taxi for about 1,200 – 1,400 baht. Or go outside and take the shuttle bus to the airport bus terminal for the private buses to Pattaya for only 106 baht. The third alternative are the limousines for 2,400 – 2,600 baht.

From the Airport to Bangkok

For most people heading to Bangkok, the easiest and most convenient method is by public taxi. Don’t be fooled by the people that come up to you asking where you are going. They are more often than not private limousine companies. On average, they will charge about 900 baht for a trip into Central Bangkok. It will be cheaper for you if you take the escalater down one floor and then out to where the public meter taxis are waiting. There is more than one taxi rank, and if the nearest one has a long queue, then just walk a few minutes to the next one. There is a desk here where you are expected to pay a 50 baht surcharge. Tell them where you want to go. If you want to go into Bangkok, then insist that the taxi uses the meter. Say to the taxi driver in Thai “bert meter”. For longer distances, it is common to negotiate a price. For example, to Pattaya it is about 1,400 baht. Some taxis into Bangkok don’t want to put on the meter. They might ask for something like 500 baht. It is actually against the law for them to carry a passenger without using the meter. They have been fined by the police in the past. A trip into Bangkok would cost you at least 250 baht on the meter – this includes the surcharge and the 40 baht tollway if you go that way. It shouldn’t be more than 350 baht. Though that depends a lot on the traffic.

Another alternative from the same floor are the Airport Express buses. These run on four set routes for a fare of 150 baht per person. This is alright if you are alone and the bus passes near your hotel. But, two or three people with not a lot of luggage are advised to share costs of using a public taxi. The three Airport Express Routes are as follows:

AE1 Suvarnabhumi – Silom Rd. (by expressway)
AE2 Suvarnabhumi – Khao San Rd.(by expressway)
AE3 Suvarnabhumi – Central World via Sukhumvit Rd.
AE4 Suvarnabhumi – Hua Lamphong Train Station via Victory Monument

The final method is by normal public buses. It is the cheapest method at only 35 baht ($1) however, it is more inconvenient. You will need to catch a free shuttle bus back up on the arrival lounge floor. This then takes you the short distance to the bus terminal in the airport. Here you will find regular buses into Bangkok. One of them even goes past my house in Samut Prakan.  The bus routes are as follows:

549 Suvarnabhumi-Minburi-Bangkapi via Seri Thai Rd.
550 Suvarnabhumi-Happy Land
551 Suvarnabhumi-Victory Monument (by expressway)
552 Suvarnabhumi-Khlong Toei (Customs Dept.) via Onnut BTS station
552A Suvarnabhumi-Samut Prakarn (Praeksa Garage)
553 Suvarnabhumi-Samut Prakarn (Crocodile Farm Garage)
554 Suvarnabhumi-Rangsit via Don Mueang and Ram Indra Rd. (by expressway)
555 Suvarnabhumi-Rangsit via Don Mueang and Central Plaza LadPhrao (by expressway)
556 Suvarnabhumi-Bangkok Southern Bus Terminal via Democracy Monument and Khaosan Rd.(by expressway)
557 Suvarnabhumi-Wong Wian Yai (The Great Circle)
558 Suvarnabhumi-Central Plaza Rama II
559 Suvarnabhumi-Future Park Rangsit via Dream World (by expressway)

Unless you are familiar with bus routes, I would advise you to go by public meter taxi. Just make sure you make a note of the details of the taxi driver. To the left of the front windscreen, on the inside, is the name of the driver in English and Thai and also his registration number. This could be useful later if you forget something in the taxi or you have a dispute with the driver regarding the fare.If you can wait two years, there will also be an Airport Link train with its own station in the basement of the airport.

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written by Alfie Santiago ( Phillipines ), Fri 03 Aug 2007 15:27:53 MDT
Hello Sir,how about the Bus number 389 or 999? Somebody from the net said that there is a pick-up area at the arrival level/2nd floor/inner curb..from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya.Is this True? Do i have to pay the 106Baht fare to the bus driver or do i need to get a ticket to the Bus Terminal?Please reply asap..i am scheduled to go to Pattaya this Aug..Thank you very much.
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written by farangx, Sun 05 Aug 2007 10:06:30 MDT
we were charged 1000 baht to get to nana plaza,
i dont think the taxi meter was on
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written by jc, Mon 10 Sep 2007 18:14:32 MDT
no kidding... 500 baht is the most ive ever been asked... but just say METER... youll either hear ok or mai dai
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written by JD, Tue 18 Sep 2007 08:16:17 MDT
I always take a taxi from the DEPARTURES level. From Arrivals, go up a couple of floors and exit the terminal. Cross the road to where taxis drop off passengers who are departing Bangkok. The taxi drivers are delighted to get a return fare because they don't have to wait in the queue...and neither do you. They aren't meant to pick up passengers from here and the area is patrolled by aiport staff to discourage this practice. However, this is Thailand and the rules are rarely enforced..
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written by Tony, Wed 19 Sep 2007 14:50:42 MDT
I fly to the new airport about four times a year and immediately catch a bus from the airport to Pattaya. I go up to the departures level, go outside and there is always a taxi driver dropping someone off who is willing to take me anywhere in Pattaya fo 800 Baht plus 60 baht for the highway tolls. Be patient. Not all of them want to go to Pattayan but I never wait more than five minutes.
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written by Tony R, Sun 23 Sep 2007 11:51:45 MDT
Why do people haggle over a few hundred baht. Heathrow to central London costs almost 90 pounds (6,000 baht) and Kennedy to central New York is more than 85$ (3,000 baht) - now thats real scamming - leave the poor Thais alone. If you really can't afford 30$ for a two hour taxi drive then what are you doing here on holiday, if not taking advantage of the Thai good nature.
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written by Pete, Mon 01 Oct 2007 16:01:57 MDT
Tony. .I had that experience... I am from Australia, its not that bad there but London is the worst.. I took a cab from Heathrow to Green Park in central London (tube zone 1) and it costs me 50 Pounds... too much
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written by Dave Pearch, Thu 04 Oct 2007 11:58:03 MDT
" Why do people haggle over a few hundred baht. Heathrow to central London costs almost 90 pounds (6,000 baht) and Kennedy to central New York is more than 85$ (3,000 baht) - now thats real scamming - leave the poor Thais alone. If you really can't afford 30$ for a two hour taxi drive then what are you doing here on holiday, if not taking advantage of the Thai good nature. "

Quite simply, its the principle, Thais earn two & a half dollars a day, what do they earn in the UK and the US? As for Thai good nature, its obvious you talking from a TOURIST point of view?
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written by James, Wed 17 Oct 2007 20:25:54 MDT
"Why do people haggle over a few hundred baht."
If you reward bad behavior then that becomes the norm. I travel to Thailand around 10 times a year on business. I always catch the taxi, I always ask for the meter, I always tip if the taxi driver is friendly and professional. Promote the values you want to see.
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written by Joachim, Tue 23 Oct 2007 19:46:57 MDT
"Why do people haggle over a few hundred baht."
I think it is a social deed to try to stop this practise. In the end the local people are the one's who suffer. They will have to pay a day's wage to take a taxi, etc, just because tourists are using their dollars as if it is monopoly money. Give a reasonable amount for a reasonable job or product, and give a reasonable tip if everything is to your satisfaction.
imho
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written by Dave, Tue 30 Oct 2007 19:26:10 MDT
"Why do people haggle over a few hundred baht"
I want an honest driver, I do not like giving money to cheats,
Taxi METER says it all either when taking one from the airport or when hailing a taxi on the street.
If people pay double just for the asking then taxi drivers and other Thais always expect it from stupid farang, the rip-off culture gets worse.
When I catch a taxi I normally tip, usually about 100 baht from the airport, but it is MY choice.
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written by Pattaya Bob, Sun 30 Dec 2007 17:31:25 MST
Why do these clowns support corruption, theft and scams ? Just be cause it is XYZ in their country does not make it right. These people should just stay home.
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written by Peter Gregory, Wed 20 Feb 2008 16:05:41 MST
The police at the gate of the Royal Palace are in on the "Palace is closed" scam: they directed me and my sister to a tuk tuk and of course we were taken to a gems shop. We refused to get out and the driver pretended the tuk tuk woudn't start and then got really nasty and threatening. It wasted hours as no taxi would stop for us outside the gem shop. On the way back to the river, numerous tuk tuk drivers told us the river was too high and we should take a tuk tuk. Overall after many many more scams about train tickets and really just about everything, we decided that everyone now has a hidden agenda when they see foreigners- the sugary smile thing. I'm not stupid and I lived for a year in Bangkok in 1980, and I can speak basic Thai. My sister and I left on the first plane back to Malaysia, where NO-ONE ripped us off. I won't ever go back to Thailand, and recently, on a 10 hour transit at the Bangkok airport I stayed in the terminal rather than go into town and get ripped off again. Go to Malaysia- the beaches are nicer, the sea cleaner and Malays will not rip you off. I've lived here for 4 years.
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written by tisha, Thu 13 Mar 2008 00:46:10 MDT
advice please..... so once i reach the airport..go up to departure level, hail a taxi from there? across the road is it? it is metered taxi right to go into BKK? will there be any officials to chase me away as it is not right to hail taxi there?
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written by baz, Sat 15 Mar 2008 16:16:46 MDT
Dont hail it. You r getting in one someone is just getting out of.Metered taxis have a sign on top.Ask him to put it on .Starts at 35 B.Not across the road.Not soposed to do it.If you dont get in he has to join the Q in arrivals & so do u.
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written by tisha, Mon 17 Mar 2008 14:41:13 MDT
hi baz,

Thanks...will heed your advice.
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written by RORY, Fri 18 Apr 2008 14:23:13 MDT
OK,It's not about the few baht I.E. money.It's the principle of how it's done.We do ,all give alittle extra anyway, because we are traveling/holiday and we are proberly in a better off job etc etc etc.
Maintain the the average price,HAGGLE HARD. otherwise when/if you come back ,your paying double ,because if they can get 100 this time,they can get 200 b next time it's greed, human nature,believe me some are earning alot compared to western wages.
Would you give me well over the odd's if i ask ? how would you feel if i tried to rip you off.
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written by Jae, Sun 18 May 2008 20:31:59 MDT
Brilliant advise. Went straight up to departures and got a taxi immediately into Bangkok, no fuss and on the meter. Taxi driver didn't even try to persuade not to go on meter. Thanks for the hard work.
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written by sairung, Fri 23 May 2008 10:40:55 MDT
i am thai.i feel regret for all scam in thailand .
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written by David, Mon 09 Jun 2008 18:53:16 MDT
Its not just Thailand. I just got back from a trip to Orlando, FL for
a conference. I had to travel top a neighboring hotel twice a day.
When you go to the front and ask for a taxi they give you a "limo"
instead without telling you that they charge twice as much.
Limos have no meters and charge $12. One time I got a regular taxi meter
and was charged only $7.

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